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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] changelog construction? (Re: 4.7 release notes
From:       Carl Symons <carlsymons () gmail ! com>
Date:       2011-09-09 14:50:04
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Sebastian Kügler <sebas@kde.org> wrote:
> Hi Bernhard,
> 
> On Friday, September 09, 2011 09:43:54 Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> > when seeing that I've missed the 4.7.1 release note construction
> > and also seeing the remark in
> > http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/17470/kde-sc-471-freigegeben.html
> > that say that the changelog
> > http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_7_0to4_7_1.php
> > is not really useful,
> > I believe we are missing an opportunity here.
> > 
> > Am Tuesday, 26. July 2011 10:34:35 schrieb Sebastian Kügler:
> > > I've made a start on HTML-izing the text from
> > > https://promo.notes.kde.org/14
> > 
> > Is there a described process how release notes and changelogs are being
> > constructed? Seeing this etherpad on quite short notice, what about
> > starting wiki pages or other places that already collect interesting items?
> > 
> 
> Tips that will help big time:
> - Using FIXED-IN: Tags in commits, this will put the commit in question into
> the list of bugs from Bugzilla we reference in the announcement
> - Update the changelog, which can be found here:
> svn+ssh://svn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/www/sites/www/announcements/changelogs
> 
> The above is nothing the promo team can sensibly do, so we need developers to
> make our lives easier here.
> 

This is a big missed opportunity. Almost every time there's a release
announcement, there are comments about bug fixes. Publicizing the
amount and type of work that is being accomplished is important to
demonstrating KDE's value. In turn, this translates into the value of
contributing to KDE, in particular, financial support.

Sebastian, could your suggestions be made more of a requirement in the
process? And have the information flow easily to release notes?

It would be useful to incorporate Lukas's ease of use suggestions that
could be navigated easily by non-technical, non-KDE people. Some links
to this kind of information would be helpful in the release
announcement. Below is the section of the 4.7 announcement dealing
with bugs. Giving people access to details would be useful.

"Stability As Well As Features
In addition to the many new features described in the release
announcements, KDE contributors have closed over 12,000 bug reports
(including over 2,000 unique bugs in the software released today)
since the last major release of KDE software. As a result, our
software is more stable than ever before."

I'd be interested in working this into the release announcement
process we've been discussing.

Carl

> I've grown a bit tired of reminding people to add their fixes and improvements
> there, mainly because I think it's just too much manual work. Using the commit
> tag should be easy enough though, and as you say, it's pretty important that
> we do show how much work we're putting into components that cause grief to our
> users.
> 
> > I was looking for a place like this or a description and I could not find
> > it. E.g. I've put in an interesting change in
> > http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.7_Feature_Plan#kdelibs
> > which then did not make the changelog for 4.7.1, though
> > I believe this would have been worth reporting by media.
> 
> The feature plan is only used for feature releases, so this info won't show up
> until 4.8 most likely (and then there's a good chance it won't make it into
> the release notes because of its too-fine granularity.)
> Cheers,
> --
> sebas
> 
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