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Subject: [kde-promo] Re: Join the Game update, thoughts
From: Lukas <1lukas1 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2011-05-07 22:55:45
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I've been reading again a post on SM
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/05/14/non-profit-website-design-examples-and-best-practices

While Join The Game differs a bit from the examples in the post, as it is
dedicated to supporting KDE, not for entire Foundations campaign, but I
can't find any reason why of them shouldn't be used as a check list for JTG.
Also examples are worthy checking for inspiration (design and content wise)

As Cornelius suggested, having testimonials is a great idea

A few points not to forget for tomorrow:
* Why there is no screenshots of KDE software? How can we make sure average
user will understand where he is?
* Just at the sprint I realized, that purpose of JTG  is to get only
financial contributions. We definitely have to stress #3 and have link to
info how can user contribute non-financially.
* Are we doing Join process right? Like we want person to donate, not to
hook in like in some sect. Could it be pay first, register later (ONLY if
you want).

While previous topics looks obvious to people who actually creates the
website, it doesn't mean it makes any sense to someone from the outside
world.

On 7 May 2011 21:02, Emil Sedgh <emilsedgh@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello guys.
>
> I received an update on Join the Game. With lots of respect for you guys, i
> have a few conerns.
>
> 1) Its no more obvious what the site is all about. The paragraph which used
> to
> be beside the banner, described the whole thing very fast. Now its a
> slogan,
> which doesnt give any hint about purpose of the page.
>
> 2) The page was empty. Now its a wall of text. We should keep the balance.
> The 'Why?' column has too much text, and actually none of them are a reason
> for joining the campaign. A simple reason like 'I use KDE and I want to
> make
> sure you guys improve it' seems like a more valid 'reason' than those we
> currently have. Also, 'I would like to contribute to kde' is another
> reason.
>
> 3) We are not doomed to have 4-columns-of-text. If we dont have much more
> to
> say, we can fill it up with better stuff.
>
> The 'Your benefits' column doesnt make sense. None of them are really
> benefits,
> important enough for someone to register. Also, we shouldnt be giving them
> expectation of having a benefit. There is no benefit on this. There's just
> helping KDE.
>
> If we want to motivate visitors to join, there are better ways.
> For example, I have the idea of showing names of last 3 members. (Just an
> idea, there are other motivations as well)
>
> Or we could go with a 3-column layout.
>
>
> For those who are not at promo sprint:
> Current webpage:
> http://emilsedgh.info/index.php
>
> New proposed webpage:
> http://emilsedgh.info/proposed
>
> P.S: Just my two cents, I hope i didnt offend anyone.
> Have fun toghether!
>
> P.S II: Join the Game's code is hosted on git repository on
> projects.kde.org,
> you can clone it and patch it right there.
>
> _______________________________________________
>

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I&#39;ve been reading again a post on SM <a \
href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/05/14/non-profit-website-design-examples-and-best-practices" \
target="_blank">http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/05/14/non-profit-website-design-examples-and-best-practices</a> \
<br>

While Join The Game differs a bit from the examples in the post, as it is \
dedicated to supporting KDE, not for entire Foundations campaign, but I can&#39;t \
find any reason why of them shouldn&#39;t be used as a check list for JTG. Also \
examples are worthy checking for inspiration (design and content wise)

As Cornelius suggested, having testimonials is a great idea A few points \
not to forget for tomorrow: * Why there is no screenshots of KDE software? How can \
we make sure average user will understand where he is?

* Just at the sprint I realized, that purpose of JTG is to get only financial \
contributions. We definitely have to stress #3 and have link to info how can user \
contribute non-financially. * Are we doing Join process right? Like we want person \
to donate, not to hook in like in some sect. Could it be pay first, register later \
(ONLY if you want).

<br>While previous topics looks obvious to people who actually creates the website, \
it doesn&#39;t mean it makes any sense to someone from the outside \
world.<br><br><br><br>  <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 7 May 2011 21:02, Emil \
Sedgh <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:emilsedgh@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">emilsedgh@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello guys. 
I received an update on Join the Game. With lots of respect for you guys, i 
have a few conerns. 
 
1) Its no more obvious what the site is all about. The paragraph which used to 
be beside the banner, described the whole thing very fast. Now its a slogan, 
which doesnt give any hint about purpose of the page. 
 
2) The page was empty. Now its a wall of text. We should keep the balance. 
The &#39;Why?&#39; column has too much text, and actually none of them are a \
reason for joining the campaign. A simple reason like &#39;I use KDE and I want \
to make sure you guys improve it&#39; seems like a more valid &#39;reason&#39; \
than those we currently have. Also, &#39;I would like to contribute to kde&#39; \
is another reason. 
3) We are not doomed to have 4-columns-of-text. If we dont have much more to 
say, we can fill it up with better stuff. 
 
The &#39;Your benefits&#39; column doesnt make sense. None of them are really \
benefits, important enough for someone to register. Also, we shouldnt be giving \
them expectation of having a benefit. There is no benefit on this. There&#39;s \
just helping KDE. 
 
If we want to motivate visitors to join, there are better ways. 
For example, I have the idea of showing names of last 3 members. (Just an 
idea, there are other motivations as well) 
 
Or we could go with a 3-column layout. 
 
 
For those who are not at promo sprint: 
Current webpage: 
<a href="http://emilsedgh.info/index.php" \
target="_blank">http://emilsedgh.info/index.php</a> 
New proposed webpage: 
<a href="http://emilsedgh.info/proposed" \
target="_blank">http://emilsedgh.info/proposed</a> 
P.S: Just my two cents, I hope i didnt offend anyone. 
Have fun toghether! 
 
P.S II: Join the Game&#39;s code is hosted on git repository on <a \
href="http://projects.kde.org" target="_blank">projects.kde.org</a>, you can \
clone it and patch it right there. 
_______________________________________________ </blockquote></div>

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