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List:       kde-promo
Subject:    [kde-promo] Re: Join The Game website
From:       Nuno Pinheiro <nuno () oxygen-icons ! org>
Date:       2011-01-27 20:28:02
Message-ID: 201101272028.03251.nuno () oxygen-icons ! org
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A Quinta, 27 de Janeiro de 2011 18:54:37 Aaron J. Seigo você escreveu:
> On Wednesday, January 26, 2011, Emil Sedgh wrote:
> > On Panj shanbe, Bahman 07, 1389 02:49:45 am Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, January 26, 2011, Emil Sedgh wrote:
> > > 
> > > * the fourth reason isn't a reason, it's the acknowledgement of
> > > commonalities between the reader and KDE.
> > 
> > I was actually hoping you will come up with complete replacements for all
> > items there. I copied them from the old website as kind of a placeholder.
> 
> oh, ok :) i'll have to think about this some more. my first thought, and
> i'm not sure it's one even i like yet ;), is this:
> 
> have the three ideas that are there and phrase them as open questions; get
> rid of the "Four reasons to join us" header in the process.

the stupid designer steps in :D
 
ok so kinda liked the 4 reasons thing visualy :) its difrent from most sites 
out there and could give some positive reinforcement for what i hope the 
"client " alrady decided to do.... aka justification to his impulse decisicion 
to help the prety peeople....
So as a justification it would need to be 4 warm and fusy "reasons" he can use 
to himslef or to his wife about the emotional decision he just made, well 
structured and a bit long ( 10 lines) reasons.

How come 4 colums ??? it was pretty :D just my 2 cents  

> If you want software that is elegant and powerful ... learn how
> If you desire the freedom to use and share creative works .. . learn how
> If you value your data and privacy ... learn how
> 
> where the "learn how" phrases would be links to pages describing how your
> money makes that possible. ok, i utterly dislike the three phrases i just
> wrote, but what do you think of that general idea/direction of posing them
> as open questions for the reader to self-identify with?
> 
> a "discover how" or "learn how" links under the main pitch text (the 8.33 /
> month bit) would also be great imho.
> 
> i could help write the text for those pages as well if needed and wanted.
> what's the timeline for this re-up?
> 
> > > * instead of "four reasons to join us", perhaps re-use the tag line:
> > > "three reasons to join the game"
> > 
> > What im thinking is that we dont really have to use the bottom of the
> > page for 'reasons'. We can come up with one or two reasons (do we have
> > actually more than one reason?)
> 
> the main reason is indeed in the main pitch paragraph in the top left. but
> there are three main values (great software, freedom and data/privacy
> rights) that form a bond between the reader and KDE. they are shared
> values, and it elevates it from a pitch for your money to an appeal to
> join forces and resources for a great set of causes.
> 
> > and describe other things in other columns.
> > For example "what the hell does that money do, exactly?"
> 
> i think that would make a lot of sense as a separate page linked from the
> main pitch paragraph. or do you think we should keep it short enough to
> fit on the main page? my concern is that to really show that we do enough
> with that money to justify your investment, it needs to be longer than
> short :)
> 
> > > * instead of "the desktop" in the image slideshow ("the desktop", "the
> > > people", "join the game") i'd put "the software"
> > 
> > Done.
> > 
> > )
> > 
> > > * i wonder if it would be possible to add a fourth image in that
> > > progression: "the freedom". that would tie in with "be free" and give a
> > > possitive message that ties in with the three reasons you are already
> > > kde even before you knew it by joining :)
> > 
> > Design is done by Nuno. I will ask him to come up with an image to help
> > us here.
> 
> cool
> 
> > Many other items you mentioned are design-specific as well. I will do my
> > best to fix those i can.
> 
> well, remember that you and Nuno are also the Designers In Charge here ..
> you can and should reject or improve on any silly ideas we throw at you :)
> 
> i like the improvements you are already making, though ...
> 
> btw, the middle, grey bar text changed from "Join the game" to "Help KDE be
> all it is, and more". imho, now that "Join the game" doesn't appear
> anywhere, the theme is lost? personally, i prefered the more
> participation-oriented and exciting "Join the game" there in the middle
> where it really hits home nicely.
> 
> > > now that i look at it, i think it might be the header itself that's the
> > > problem space. "radical" idea: could the header be removed? would it be
> > > better to have people focus right on the content directly in this case?
> > > it's not a content heavy site, after all.
> > 
> > I removed the header and moved the menu bar to footer. (where currently
> > the
> 
> ah, that's cool :) looks nice.
> 
> > trademark message is). The mockup is got from Nuno had a menu bar in both
> > footer and header.
> > 
> > > e.g., why a List of Members? Login could be a button (different color?)
> > > next to "Join now!" so that it's evident that after you join there's
> > > something ongoing. the "Join" link is redundant. that just leaves
> > > "Home", and maybe we can get away without that ...
> > 
> > List of members should be there because some people have agreed their
> > names to be publicly mentioned by e.v as supporters. And it was a
> > feature request I had from claudia.
> 
> ok :)
> 
> > Also, with Nuno's help we changed some other stuff and it looks better
> > now. Also, without the header, other pages (like enter your email
> > address) became too empt. so i enabled the teaser area on all pages.
> > tell me what you think.
> 
> yes, i like that. it keeps continuity and the reason right in front of the
> reader the whole time. :)
> 
> what i _might_ do on the join process pages is remove the "Join the game"
> image from the slideshow: they are already doing that, we don't need to be
> more purshy about  it at that point ;) keeping the other images works
> great, though, imho .. esp if we had a "the freedom" one for there.


-- 
oxygen guy, "I make the pretty pictures"
 
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