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Subject: Re: [kde-promo] Listserv cleanup
From: Justin Kirby <justin () neomantra ! org>
Date: 2010-01-03 4:37:00
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Ingo,
Using your list as an example, here is what I see at the bottom of the
kde-core-devel page you just linked to:
kde-core-devel <https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-core-devel> list
run by coolo at kde.org, dfaure at kde.org, per.kde at
gmail.com<kde-core-devel-owner@kde.org>
What I did was go into each page such as
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-core-devel and copy those email
addresses from that line into my spreadsheet. Sounds like maybe this is no
good and I need to replace the email addresses with listname-owner@kde.org =
for
each list that seems to be out of date? (e.g. kde-core-devel-owner (at)
kde.org in this example)
Justin
2010/1/2 Ingo Kl=F6cker <kloecker@kde.org>
> Hi,
>
> I have resorted the replies. You can find my reply inline below.
>
>
> On Saturday 02 January 2010, Justin Kirby wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Matt Rogers <mattr@kde.org> wrote:
> > > On Friday 01 January 2010 10:51:28 am Justin Kirby wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Justin Kirby wrote:
> > > > > 2009/12/30 Ingo Kl=F6cker <kloecker@kde.org> wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday 24 December 2009, Justin Kirby wrote:
> > > > > > > Thanks Martin! I copied the email text I had in mind below
> > > > > > > and the spreadsheet is attached. I used << >>'s to signify
> > > > > > > where info would need to be pulled in from the spreadsheet.
> > > > > > > Also, for some
> > > > > > > lists there are multiple moderators. We separated their
> > > > > > > email addresses with spaces in that column when there was
> > > > > > > more than one. Let me know if you have any questions or
> > > > > > > need clarification.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hint: It would be much easier to use listname-owner@kde.org
> > > > > > instead of the addresses of all admins/moderators.
> > > > >
> > > > > Wow, I really wish I'd known about that moderator mailing list
> > > > > 6 months ago
> > > > >
> > > > > :) Thanks Ingo!
> > > > >
> > > > > So maybe instead of sending out all these individualized emails
> > > > > we could just send the following to that mailing list and then
> > > > > take appropriate action. Please let me know if anyone has any
> > > > > feedback on this, otherwise I will go ahead and send it out
> > > > > early next week:
> [snip]
> > > > Ack...maybe I misread that. Ingo, is there a "mailing list of
> > > > list admins"? Or were you just saying we could use one email
> > > > address for each list instead of mailing each moderator on every
> > > > list individually?
> > >
> > > There are list owner addresses that are fowarders to the mailing
> > > list administrators.
>
> Hmm, AFAIK I'm just a moderator of kde-core-devel (at least, I'm not
> mentioned in the footer of
> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-core-devel), but I still
> receive copies of messages sent to kde-core-devel-owner@kde.org.
> *shrug*
>
>
> > > So, for the kopete-devel list, there is a
> > > kopete-devel-owner@kde.org email address that forwards to me,
> > > since I'm the mailing list
> > > admin for that list. For lists with multiple owners, everybody
> > > listed as a mailing list owner would get the mail. Note that
> > > mailing list owners are separate from list moderators.
> >
> > Matt, thanks for the clarification. I believe the spreadsheet we
> > compiled only lists the moderators' email addresses.
>
> I think you mean list admins instead of moderators. :-)
>
>
> > Is it even
> > necessary to contact the moderators? Should we just contact the list
> > admins? Or should we really be pinging them both?
>
> I think contacting the list admins (aka list owners) should be
> sufficient.
>
>
> Regards,
> Ingo
>
>
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Ingo,<div><br></div><div>Using your list as an example, here is what I see at the \
bottom of the kde-core-devel page you just linked to:</div><div><br></div><div><span \
class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: \
medium; font-style: italic; "><a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-core-devel">kde-core-devel</a> list \
run by <a href="mailto:kde-core-devel-owner@kde.org">coolo at kde.org, dfaure at \
kde.org, per.kde at gmail.com</a></span><br> <br></div><div>What I did was go into \
each page such as <a \
href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-core-devel">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-core-devel</a> \
and copy those email addresses from that line into my spreadsheet. Sounds like maybe \
this is no good and I need to replace the email addresses with <a \
href="mailto:listname-owner@kde.org">listname-owner@kde.org</a> for each list that \
seems to be out of date? (e.g. kde-core-devel-owner (at) <a \
href="http://kde.org">kde.org</a> in this example)</div> \
<div><br></div><div>Justin</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/1/2 Ingo \
Klöcker <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:kloecker@kde.org">kloecker@kde.org</a>></span><br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex;"> Hi,<br>
<br>
I have resorted the replies. You can find my reply inline below.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
On Saturday 02 January 2010, Justin Kirby wrote:<br>
> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Matt Rogers <<a \
href="mailto:mattr@kde.org">mattr@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > > On Friday 01 \
January 2010 10:51:28 am Justin Kirby wrote:<br> </div><div class="im">> > > \
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Justin Kirby wrote:<br> > > > > \
2009/12/30 Ingo Klöcker <<a \
href="mailto:kloecker@kde.org">kloecker@kde.org</a>> wrote:<br> > > > \
> > On Thursday 24 December 2009, Justin Kirby wrote:<br> > > > > \
> > Thanks Martin! I copied the email text I had in mind below<br> > > \
> > > > and the spreadsheet is attached. I used << >>'s \
to signify<br> > > > > > > where info would need to be pulled in \
from the spreadsheet.<br> > > > > > > Also, for some<br>
> > > > > > lists there are multiple moderators. We separated \
their<br> > > > > > > email addresses with spaces in that column \
when there was<br> > > > > > > more than one. Let me know if you \
have any questions or<br> > > > > > > need clarification.<br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > > Hint: It would be much easier to use <a \
href="mailto:listname-owner@kde.org">listname-owner@kde.org</a><br> > > > \
> > instead of the addresses of all admins/moderators.<br> > > > \
><br> </div><div class="im">> > > > Wow, I really wish I'd known \
about that moderator mailing list<br> > > > > 6 months ago<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > :) Thanks Ingo!<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > So maybe instead of sending out all these individualized \
emails<br> > > > > we could just send the following to that mailing list \
and then<br> > > > > take appropriate action. Please let me know if \
anyone has any<br> > > > > feedback on this, otherwise I will go ahead \
and send it out<br> > > > > early next week:<br>
</div>[snip]<br>
<div class="im">> > > Ack...maybe I misread that. Ingo, is there a \
"mailing list of<br> > > > list admins"? Or were you just saying \
we could use one email<br> > > > address for each list instead of mailing \
each moderator on every<br> > > > list individually?<br>
> ><br>
</div><div class="im">> > There are list owner addresses that are fowarders to \
the mailing<br> > > list administrators.<br>
<br>
</div>Hmm, AFAIK I'm just a moderator of kde-core-devel (at least, I'm \
not<br> mentioned in the footer of<br>
<a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-core-devel" \
target="_blank">https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-core-devel</a>), but I \
still<br> receive copies of messages sent to <a \
href="mailto:kde-core-devel-owner@kde.org">kde-core-devel-owner@kde.org</a>.<br>
*shrug*<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> > So, for the kopete-devel list, there is a<br>
> > <a href="mailto:kopete-devel-owner@kde.org">kopete-devel-owner@kde.org</a> \
email address that forwards to me,<br> > > since I'm the mailing list<br>
> > admin for that list. For lists with multiple owners, everybody<br>
> > listed as a mailing list owner would get the mail. Note that<br>
> > mailing list owners are separate from list moderators.<br>
><br>
</div><div class="im">> Matt, thanks for the clarification. I believe the \
spreadsheet we<br> > compiled only lists the moderators' email addresses.<br>
<br>
</div>I think you mean list admins instead of moderators. :-)<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> Is it even<br>
> necessary to contact the moderators? Should we just contact the list<br>
> admins? Or should we really be pinging them both?<br>
<br>
</div>I think contacting the list admins (aka list owners) should be<br>
sufficient.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<font color="#888888">Ingo<br>
</font><br><br>
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