From kde-promo Fri Feb 13 13:14:18 2009 From: "kurt pfeifle" Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:14:18 +0000 To: kde-promo Subject: Re: [kde-promo] KDE Handboek Message-Id: <20090213131418.141370 () gmx ! net> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-promo&m=123453091426495 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============1857469559==" --===============1857469559== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="========GMXBoundary141371234530858611083" --========GMXBoundary141371234530858611083 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wendy Van Craen wrote: > > It is great that you want to print the brochures for free and a laser > > printer is indeed the best quality on the market for home use. No, "best quality for home use" are photo printers. Which are not lasers technology-wise, but ink(jet) based ones. Or thermo(sublimation)-based... Anyway, I have serious doubts that you would want to put any of these printers into your home (all of which are lasers): Digimaster 150EX (digital b+w laser): http://www.nexpress.com/download/pdf/digimaster/DM_family.pdf (Picture page 2) Ineo+ 6501 (digital color laser): http://www.develop.de/en/products/0/82__produkte-detail.htm Nexpress 2100 (digital color laser): http://www.graphics.kodak.com/CA/en/Product/Printers_Presses/Digital_Color/Kodak_Nexpress_2100/default.htm > > The printing techniques best for professional look and feel is digital > or > > offset. Neither "digital" nor "offset" are complete definitions. Because laser printing is digital as well. And "offset" may be "digital offset" or "litho offset" or "photo offset". I guess you did you mean "digital offset"... (?) > > For a smaller faire laser printed brochures would be perfect, but > > for CeBit I think we might want to have something with a more > professional > > look and feel... Fine by me. Case closed. > > So what do you think if we look for a professional printing company to > have > > some extra of these brochures? > OK. Go ahead. :-) Martin Konold wrote: > Kurt: Are these laser prints distinguishable from digital print? Since I don't know what "digital print" was meant to mean in this case, I can't tell for sure. What I do know is that some "professional print shops" are fooling their non-expert customers about what technique exactly they sell them. (They make customers believe to get offset while indeed they give them laser). This fooling is helped along by two factors: - the fact that they use a vague, non-precise language to describe the different printing techniques - the fact that very good laser technique can output print quality that indeed is better than avarage offset printing Experts will be able to tell differences and pinpoint the technique used if they use a "Fadenzähler" (english: linen tester). Good or excellent laser prints are not "professionally perfect". Just like KDE4 isn't (yet).... :-) Cheers, Kurt --========GMXBoundary141371234530858611083 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wendy Van Craen wrote:

> It is gr= eat that you want to print the brochures for free and a laser
> pri= nter is indeed the best quality on the market for home use.

No, "best quality for home use" are photo printers. Which are= not lasers technology-wise, but ink(jet) based ones. Or thermo(subli= mation)-based...

Anyway, I have serious doubts that you would wa= nt to put any of these printers into your home (all of which are lasers):
Digimaster 150EX (digital b+w laser):
http://www.nexpress.c= om/download/pdf/digimaster/DM_family.pdf (Picture page 2)

In= eo+ 6501 (digital color laser):
http://www.develop.de/en/products/0/82__pr= odukte-detail.htm

Nexpress 2100 (digital color laser):
= http://www.graphics.kodak.com/C= A/en/Product/Printers_Presses/Digital_Color/Kodak_Nexpress_2100/default.htm=

> The printing techniques best= for professional look and feel is digital or
> offset.
Neither "digital" nor "offset" are complete de= finitions. Because laser printing is digital as well. And "offset"= ; may be "digital offset" or "litho offset" or "ph= oto offset".

I guess you did you mean "digital offset&= quot;... (?)

> For a smaller faire= laser printed brochures would be perfect, but
> for CeBit I think = we might want to have something with a more professional
> look and= feel...

Fine by me. Case closed.

> So what do you think if we look for a professional prin= ting company to have
> some extra of these brochures?

OK. Go ahead. :-)

Martin Konold wrote:<= br />
Kurt: Are these laser prints distinguishable= from digital print?

Since I don't know what "digit= al print" was meant to mean in this case, I can't tell for sure. What = I do know is that some "professional print shops" are fooling the= ir non-expert customers about what technique exactly they sell them. (They = make customers believe to get offset while indeed they give them laser). Th= is fooling is helped along by two factors:

the fact that they use a vague, non-precise language to des= cribe the different printing techniques

the fact that very good laser technique can output print qu= ality that indeed is better than avarage offset printing

Experts will be able to tell differences and pinpoint the technique= used if they use a "Fadenzähler" (english: linen tester).

Good or excellent la= ser prints are not "professionally perfect". Just like KDE4 isn't= (yet).... :-)

Cheers,
Kurt
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