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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] [Panel-devel] one month of devel ==?
From:       "Jos Poortvliet" <jos () mijnkamer ! nl>
Date:       2007-07-26 15:12:51
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On 7/26/07, Sebastian Kügler <sebas@kde.org> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 26 July 2007 16:18:56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:
> > > This sounds like a good start of a short plasma writeup (1 paragraph)
> for
> > the beta 1 announcement ;-)
>
> The keymessages should be clear, however (three of them and they need to
> be
> very clear). I'm not sure if a plasma write-up is really what should go
> into
> the release notes. Much more a "this works, this is what we're fixing now"
> is
> important. Remember, the beta release is not so much about what's going
> on,
> but it's a software release.
>
> > I can do it, if you don't have time, but you're a good writer so I'll
> ask
> > you first ;-)
> >
> > And of course an up-to-date screencast. Take a few day's, that's OK...
> > It'll be even more up-to-date :D
>
> Not necessarily. We need the status snapshotted that's there when tagged,
> otherwise we'll show things that are not in the beta release.
>
> A screencast of the whole desktop right now would make sense, though. But
> frankly, for a beta, the workspace looks quite incomplete still. kicker is
> still in, no panel, task switching by plasma, you cannot even change the
> wallpaper or other aspects. I know the plasmoids are cool, and I know that
> things are being worked on at a tremendous pace, but calling the desktop
> shell 'beta' at this point sends the wrong signal. Instead we need to make
> very clear that the main focus is on getting this thing complete (and then
> bugfixed). Plasma is not what we should focus on in the release notes, we
> should rather take a couple of applications that are further down the road
> --
> think oKular, dolphin or marble. Those really shine.
>
> Also, try to get a statement from the PIM peeps (not that kdepim does
> compile
> right now), but they've caught up quite a bit lately.
>
> KOffice will be releasing their second Alpha at the same time, I think.
> Not
> sure if we should combine announcements, but it's worth considering.
> (Ingwa
> knows this best.)


So, I need to make the announcement shorter. Maybe, like what you did with
the first alpha, make a wiki page with more info or something. I'll work on
it tomorow, OK?

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On 7/26/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Sebastian Kügler</b> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:sebas@kde.org">sebas@kde.org</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span \
class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px \
solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Thursday \
26 July 2007 16:18:56 Jos Poortvliet wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; This sounds like a good \
start of a short plasma writeup (1 paragraph) for<br>&gt; the beta 1 announcement \
;-)<br><br>The keymessages should be clear, however (three of them and they need to \
be <br>very clear). I&#39;m not sure if a plasma write-up is really what should go \
into<br>the release notes. Much more a &quot;this works, this is what we&#39;re \
fixing now&quot; is<br>important. Remember, the beta release is not so much about \
what&#39;s going on, <br>but it&#39;s a software release.<br><br>&gt; I can do it, if \
you don&#39;t have time, but you&#39;re a good writer so I&#39;ll ask<br>&gt; you \
first ;-)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; And of course an up-to-date screencast. Take a few \
day&#39;s, that&#39;s OK... <br>&gt; It&#39;ll be even more up-to-date :D<br><br>Not \
necessarily. We need the status snapshotted that&#39;s there when \
tagged,<br>otherwise we&#39;ll show things that are not in the beta release.<br><br>A \
screencast of the whole desktop right now would make sense, though. But <br>frankly, \
for a beta, the workspace looks quite incomplete still. kicker is<br>still in, no \
panel, task switching by plasma, you cannot even change the<br>wallpaper or other \
aspects. I know the plasmoids are cool, and I know that <br>things are being worked \
on at a tremendous pace, but calling the desktop<br>shell &#39;beta&#39; at this \
point sends the wrong signal. Instead we need to make<br>very clear that the main \
focus is on getting this thing complete (and then <br>bugfixed). Plasma is not what \
we should focus on in the release notes, we<br>should rather take a couple of \
applications that are further down the road --<br>think oKular, dolphin or marble. \
Those really shine.<br><br> Also, try to get a statement from the PIM peeps (not that \
kdepim does compile<br>right now), but they&#39;ve caught up quite a bit \
lately.<br><br>KOffice will be releasing their second Alpha at the same time, I \
think. Not <br>sure if we should combine announcements, but it&#39;s worth \
considering. (Ingwa<br>knows this best.)</blockquote><div><br></div>So, I need to \
make the announcement shorter. Maybe, like what you did with the first alpha, make a \
wiki page with more info or something. I&#39;ll work on it tomorow, OK? \
<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">--<br>sebas<br><br> <a \
href="http://www.kde.org">http://www.kde.org</a> | <a href="http://vizZzion.org"> \
http://vizZzion.org</a> |&nbsp;&nbsp;GPG Key ID: 9119 \
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