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Subject: Re: [kde-promo] kde-promo Digest, Vol 46, Issue 18
From: Sharkscott <sharkscott () gmail ! com>
Date: 2007-01-15 3:39:55
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Hello all,
1.
- The technical design of the win32 and Mac OS ports?
- The technical challenges facing the developers on win32 and Mac OS?
- The technical requirements for building KDE on win32 and Mac OS?
- The expected distribution strategy for KDE on win32 and Mac OS?
I would love to pick someones brain for the answers to these questions
and more concerning KDE running on multiple OS's. It sounds like a
huge undertaking to me, it would be cool to learn how it is being
done.
2.
- What parts of KDE are being ported?
- The rational for the porting?
- The probable impacts on the KDE project as we see it?
I think that having KDE work under divergent OS's will bring long
overdue attention to the talented people who work on KDE and 'Linux'
in general. I believe that it will enable people to more readily try
Open Source Software with much less trepidation. I would like to talk
with a cross section of people who work on all aspects of KDE to get
their opinions and thoughts on these questions and more.
3.
- Timelines?
- Support options?
- Future developments?
- KDE's long term goals?
- Changes in the structure of KDE?
From the outside looking in it seems that KDE is taking on an larger
role for itself, of its own volition. How did this come about? Who
figured out the best way to go about it? How do you plan to support
it? What do you still want to do that has not been done yet? Has this
caused the long term vision and structure of KDE to change?
I could go on, but I feel I am getting ahead of myself. I want you to
know that I am a fan of KDE. I think that there are a lot of people
doing great work with KDE that deserves to be brought to the attention
of the Linux and FOSS community at large. With your help, I hope to do
just that.
Sincerely, Scott Ruecker
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> 1. KDE 4.0 (Sharkscott)
> 2. Re: KDE 4.0 (Danny Allen)
> 3. Re: KDE 4.0 (Thiago Macieira)
> 4. Re: Brainstorm: Slogans for developernew (Joseph M. Gaffney)
> 5. Re: Brainstorm: Slogans for developernew (Steve Tose)
> 6. Re: KDE 4.0 (Aaron J. Seigo)
> 7. Back in the land of the living (Wade Olson)
> 8. Re: Article - Decibel release (Wade Olson)
> 9. Marketing Meeting: Recap (Wade Olson)
> 10. Re: Marketing Meeting: Recap (Arne Babenhauserheide)
> 11. Re: Proposal to form a promotion text team (Arne Babenhauserheide)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 05:46:17 -0700
> From: Sharkscott <sharkscott@gmail.com>
> Subject: [kde-promo] KDE 4.0
> To: kde-promo@kde.org
> Message-ID:
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> Hello,
>
> I would like to talk with someone who is involved with current events
> regarding KDE 4.0 and the work being done to enable it to run under
> Windows and other Operating Systems. If there is anyone willing to
> participate in an interview or that I can correspond with to answer my
> questions? I need accurate information to complete a feature I am
> writing for LXer.com.
>
>
> Regards
> --
> Scott Ruecker
> Senior Editor, LXer.com
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
> - Benjamin Franklin
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:08:07 +0000
> From: Danny Allen <dannya40uk@yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kde-promo] KDE 4.0
> To: KDE Promo <kde-promo@kde.org>
> Message-ID: <200701141408.08636.dannya40uk@yahoo.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Scott,
> The next commit-digest which will be released later today at
> http://commit-digest.org/issues/2007-01-14/ contains information on the
> recent work on kde/win32 and an installer for that, and a dot.kde.org article
> which will be released around late Monday/early Tuesday discusses KDE 4 on
> Mac OS X.
>
> Danny
>
>
> On Sunday 14 January 2007 12:46, Sharkscott wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I would like to talk with someone who is involved with current events
> > regarding KDE 4.0 and the work being done to enable it to run under
> > Windows and other Operating Systems. If there is anyone willing to
> > participate in an interview or that I can correspond with to answer my
> > questions? I need accurate information to complete a feature I am
> > writing for LXer.com.
> >
> >
> > Regards
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:10:04 +0100
> From: Thiago Macieira <thiago@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: [kde-promo] KDE 4.0
> To: kde-promo@kde.org
> Cc: Sharkscott <sharkscott@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <200701141510.05377.thiago@kde.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Sharkscott wrote:
> > I would like to talk with someone who is involved with current events
> > regarding KDE 4.0 and the work being done to enable it to run under
> > Windows and other Operating Systems. If there is anyone willing to
> > participate in an interview or that I can correspond with to answer my
> > questions? I need accurate information to complete a feature I am
> > writing for LXer.com.
>
> We can put you in contact with our MacOS X and Windows developers if you
> want. I am not sure if that's what you want, though.
>
> Just to be sure: there aren't that many developers and our main platform
> is still Unix/X11.
>
> --
> ? Thiago Macieira ?- ?thiago (AT) macieira.info - thiago (AT) kde.org
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> ? ? E067 918B B660 DBD1 105C ?966C 33F5 F005 6EF4 5358
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 14:52:50 -0500
> From: "Joseph M. Gaffney" <cucullin@wtfisthat.net>
> Subject: Re: [kde-promo] Brainstorm: Slogans for developernew
> To: KDE Promo <kde-promo@kde.org>
> Message-ID: <200701141452.51290.cucullin@wtfisthat.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
>
> On Saturday 13 January 2007 18:05, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Saturday 13 January 2007 14:31, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> > > On Saturday 13 January 2007 11:49, Luke Parry wrote:
> > > > So going on this would be the best option. However I cannot think of
> > > > anything that is 'catchy' or interesting.
> > >
> > > I don't know that these qualify as being catchy or interesting....
> >
> > good thoughts; just remember that this is for a developer information site.
>
> Good point
>
> The Power to Create
> KDE: For Powerful Applications
> Power up your Applications with KDE
> KDE: Empowering your Development Toolbox
>
> etc
>
> -Joseph M. Gaffney
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:00:53 -0500
> From: "Steve Tose" <stevetose@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kde-promo] Brainstorm: Slogans for developernew
> To: "KDE Promo" <kde-promo@kde.org>
> Message-ID:
> <6503d2510701141400w56a4deb6pa3f6703e51189a45@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> "Are your Utilities lacking Power?
> Alt Fuel is in Development and it's KDE."
> or
> "KDE -- Alt Fuel Protecting your Environment"
>
> It's tenuous, if anyone likes where I'm starting from they should clean it
> up and polish it I guess.
>
> KDE -- _alternative_ fuel -- _Development_ Environment.
> I think it's clever but it's not coming out right
>
> Steve Tose
>
> On 1/14/07, Joseph M. Gaffney <cucullin@wtfisthat.net> wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday 13 January 2007 18:05, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > > On Saturday 13 January 2007 14:31, Joseph M. Gaffney wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 13 January 2007 11:49, Luke Parry wrote:
> > > > > So going on this would be the best option. However I cannot think of
> > > > > anything that is 'catchy' or interesting.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know that these qualify as being catchy or interesting....
> > >
> > > good thoughts; just remember that this is for a developer information
> > site.
> >
> > Good point
> >
> > The Power to Create
> > KDE: For Powerful Applications
> > Power up your Applications with KDE
> > KDE: Empowering your Development Toolbox
> >
> > etc
> >
> > -Joseph M. Gaffney
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 17:35:04 -0700
> From: "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo@kde.org>
> Subject: Re: [kde-promo] KDE 4.0
> To: kde-promo@kde.org
> Cc: Sharkscott <sharkscott@gmail.com>
> Message-ID: <200701141735.04518.aseigo@kde.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> On Sunday 14 January 2007 7:10, Thiago Macieira wrote:
> > I am not sure if that's what you want, though.
>
> I'd like to echo this sentiment. Perhaps if you can tell us a bit more about
> what you are looking for, we can direct you more accurately. In particular,
> which of the following are you looking for:
>
> - The technical design of the win32 and Mac OS ports?
> - The technical challenges facing the developers on win32 and Mac OS?
> - The technical requirements for building KDE on win32 and Mac OS?
> - The expected distribution strategy for KDE on win32 and Mac OS?
> - What parts of KDE are being ported?
> - The rational for the porting?
> - The probable impacts on the KDE project as we see it?
> - Timelines?
> - Support options?
> - .. something else as well?
>
> If you could let us know which of the above (likely it is a few or even
> several of them) we can direct you to the Right People(tm), and vice versa.
>
> If you want the questions to be quiet during the process of
> writing/interviewing, please feel free to send them via private email and
> i'll see to it that answers are made available to you. otherwise, we can do
> this on the kde-promo list =)
>
> Have a great day and thanks for your interest in KDE4.
>
> --
> Aaron J. Seigo
> humru othro a kohnu se
> GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43
>
> Full time KDE developer sponsored by Trolltech (http://www.trolltech.com)
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:52:56 -0600
> From: "Wade Olson" <wade@corefunction.com>
> Subject: [kde-promo] Back in the land of the living
> To: "KDE Promo" <kde-promo@kde.org>
> Message-ID:
> <a42b7670701141652w1f0a40dcm6c4e8dd3e9ca11da@mail.gmail.com>
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> All,
>
> There's a very specific scene in Lord of the Rings where Frodo wakes
> up in Rivendell to Gandalf sitting beside him. Frodo asks why Gandalf
> didn't meet him at the Inn.
>
> Gandalf winces in a way that you can only wince when you're
> remembering a torture montage.
>
> If you ask me how my life has been since I got back from the Marketing
> Meeting in Germany, I will give you the same wince.
>
> But there's good news: I had enough time and energy to type this email
> and might be coming out of the fog.
>
> Let's get this 4.0 promotional freight train moving.
>
> Glad to be back,
> Wade
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:56:48 -0600
> From: "Wade Olson" <wade@corefunction.com>
> Subject: Re: [kde-promo] Article - Decibel release
> To: "KDE Promo" <kde-promo@kde.org>
> Message-ID:
> <a42b7670701141656h2e65d9as4bb9eac2c21fa1ed@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> All,
>
> In the email thread below, we were very close (it seems) 4 weeks ago
> to a large artile on Decibel.
>
> Is that still in process?
>
> There have recently been two "On the road to KDE 4" articles on the
> Dot, can we get some synergistification here?
>
>
> On 12/18/06, Nathan Ogden <nathanogden76@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Wade Olson wrote:
> > > That's great to hear.
> > >
> > > Don't be afraid to ask if you have questions involving revision or Dot
> > > submission.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Wade
> > >
> > Thanks. I fully intend to make full use of this resource. :)
> >
> > Also, I will be continuing communication with Tobias to get his
> > perspective in the process.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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> > on or temporarily stop your subscription.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:59:32 -0600
> From: "Wade Olson" <wade@corefunction.com>
> Subject: [kde-promo] Marketing Meeting: Recap
> To: "KDE Promo" <kde-promo@kde.org>
> Message-ID:
> <a42b7670701141659n1e3c5401i78d043dec910ac57@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> All,
>
> Can we really take some time to recap our findings of the Marketing
> Meeting and get back on track?
>
> I'm just as guilty as anyone for not pushing things forward. I don't
> want a qucik recap. I want a thoughtful topic-by-topic discussion.
>
> What was discussed and what came from it.
>
> Who's game?
>
> Wade
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:49:15 +0100
> From: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de>
> Subject: Re: [kde-promo] Marketing Meeting: Recap
> To: KDE Promo <kde-promo@kde.org>
> Message-ID: <200701150249.16245.arne_bab@web.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I'm in.
>
> I already tried document a few things, but since I only did second-notes, I
> think those who directly typed it down should put up the info (instead of me
> typing it down page by page, now...).
>
> What I already typed down:
> - http://www.spreadkde.org/branding_meeting/participants
> - http://www.spreadkde.org/branding_meeting/keymessages
>
> Wishes,
> Arne
>
> El Lunes, 15 de Enero de 2007 01:59, Wade Olson escribi?:
> > All,
> >
> > Can we really take some time to recap our findings of the Marketing
> > Meeting and get back on track?
> >
> > I'm just as guilty as anyone for not pushing things forward. I don't
> > want a qucik recap. I want a thoughtful topic-by-topic discussion.
> >
> > What was discussed and what came from it.
> >
> > Who's game?
> >
> > Wade
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > This message is from the kde-promo mailing list.
> >
> > Visit https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-promo to unsubscribe, set
> > digest on or temporarily stop your subscription.
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:55:26 +0100
> From: Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de>
> Subject: Re: [kde-promo] Proposal to form a promotion text team
> To: KDE Promo <kde-promo@kde.org>
> Message-ID: <200701150255.26561.arne_bab@web.de>
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>
> Yes!
>
> Just monitor this list to begin with (there are articles flowing in from time
> to time), and feel free to contact the dot-people:
>
> dot@kdenews.org
>
> They might have some articles which eagerly await proof-reading :)
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne
>
> El Viernes, 12 de Enero de 2007 01:06, Steve Tose escribi?:
> > I could spend a fair amount of time proofreading, as time permits. I feel
> > I'm very good at it (or is that well?) but I've never been responsible for
> > anything except my own work. Is there a place to start?
> >
> > Steve Tose
> >
> > On 1/11/07, Luke Parry <parry.luke@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > > In terms of checking for spelling and grammar mistakes will this be
> > > covered in the team, or will coherently be checked by other people as
> > > well, to check for quality?
> > >
> > > Myself, I have inherited poor use of the english language :) but I
> > > hope this goes well and aspires people to use Kde!
> > >
> > > Luke Parry
> > >
> > > 11/01/07, Steve Tose <stevetose@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I'm new to the list and missed this firsy round, but would like to
> > >
> > > suggest
> > >
> > > > some minor changes. Feel free to discard or keep any or all...
> > > >
> > > > On 1/11/07, Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de> wrote:
> > > > > Are there more things in there, which might hinder the text team?
> > > > >
> > > > > If not, I'd be glad to get some feedback from other users in here,
> > > > > and
> > >
> > > if
> > >
> > > > it's
> > > >
> > > > > positive, put the text on spreadKDE on monday.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > Arne
> > > > >
> > > > > El S?bado, 6 de Enero de 2007 04:34, Arne Babenhauserheide escribi?:
> > > > > > El S?bado, 6 de Enero de 2007 03:37, Kurt Pfeifle escribi?:
> > > > > > > On Saturday 06 January 2007 00:36, Arne Babenhauserheide wrote:
> > > > > > > > "The goal of the text team is to make sure, that all official
> > > > > > > > promotion texts of KDE are at least as impressive to the reader
> > > > > > > > as the artwork from the Oxygen Team is to the onlooker."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "All official promotion texts published by KDE run through our
> > > > > > > > hands. We ensure that they are precise and beautiful and
> > > > > > > > vibrant with life. To archieve this goal, we create template
> > > > > > > > texts, edit articles, and create original articles. Also we
> > > > > > > > serve as an entrypoint into the different writing communities
> > > > > > > > inside the KDE project."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I applaud to your intentions, and I encourage you to strife for
> > > > > > > these. But I'd advice to tone down the wording a bit (like,
> > > > > > > instead of "we ensure", say: "we aim to", etc.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree.
> > > > > > That's one I should have seen myself... thanks a lot!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then let's get them right at once:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "The goal of the Text Team is to work towards making the promotion
> > >
> > > texts
> > >
> > > > of
> > > >
> > > > > > KDE as impressive to the reader as the artwork from the Oxygen Team
> > >
> > > is
> > >
> > > > to
> > > >
> > > > > > the onlooker."
> > > >
> > > > "The goal of the Text Team is to work towards making the promotional
> > >
> > > texts
> > >
> > > > of
> > > > KDE as impressive to our readers as the artwork from the Oxygen Team is
> > >
> > > to
> > >
> > > > their users."
> > > >
> > > > I did like the original 'at least as' but understand the
> > >
> > > reservations...
> > >
> > > > > > "All official promotion texts published by KDE run through our
> > >
> > > hands. We
> > >
> > > > > > aim to make them become precise and beautiful and vibrant with
> > > > > > life. To archieve this goal, we create template texts, edit
> > > > > > articles, and
> > > >
> > > > create
> > > >
> > > > > > original articles. Also we serve as an entrypoint into the
> > > > > > different writing communities inside the KDE project."
> > > >
> > > > "All official promotional texts published by KDE run through our hands.
> > >
> > > We
> > >
> > > > strive to help them become precise and beautiful and vibrant with life.
> > > > To archieve this goal we create template texts, edit articles, and
> > >
> > > create
> > >
> > > > original articles. We also serve as an entrypoint into the different
> > > > writing communities inside the KDE project."
> > > >
> > > > > > Does it sound better to you this way?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best wishes,
> > > > > > Arne
> > > > > > PS: There are surely other points to be criticized. Please don't
> > > >
> > > > hesitate
> > > >
> > > > > > to do so, if you see them!
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > This message is from the kde-promo mailing list.
> > > > >
> > > > > Visit
> > > >
> > > > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-promo
> > > > to unsubscribe, set digest on or temporarily stop your subscription.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Deleted a couple commas, changed to 'promotional', played around with
> > > > phrases, really just semantic differences...
> > > > Steve Tose
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > This message is from the kde-promo mailing list.
> > > >
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