From kde-promo Fri Jun 02 09:52:53 2006 From: Tom Chance Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 09:52:53 +0000 To: kde-promo Subject: Re: [kde-promo] suggestions for next release process: Message-Id: <200606021052.53307.tom () acrewoods ! net> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-promo&m=114924201326990 Ahoy, On Thursday 01 June 2006 19:35, Danil Dotsenko wrote: > Thursday 01 June 2006 10:57 Tom Chance wrote: > > On Thursday 01 June 2006 18:36, Danil Dotsenko wrote: > > > 2 month warning is pretty much useless as a warning. No fixed bugs yet, > > > no idea what the freshly baked release is all about. We need to figure > > > out how to have a 7-5 day warning of already assured release. > > > > To be fair there was ample warning and enough people on this list knew > > about the date or at least where to find it, Carsten Niehaus prepared a > > changelog well in advance and we even discussed the key messages with a > > week or so to go. Yet Sebas was left pleading for somebody to finish > > stuff with little or no response until it was too late. > > Is my English really that bad? Again, 3.5.3 release job was a rush job for > 2 reasons: > 1. People who KNEW what the actual release date is were very busy and could > not help much. (end of May - exams, work, all hell brakes loose) > 2. Situation No1 left the job of release notes on those who had some time > (ppl like me) but have no clue against what deadline I am working. Righto, so if I coordinate the promotion of 3.5.4 I'll make sure I post a 2-week and if necessary a 1-week warning for those of you who don't want to jot publicly-available dates down in your diary. For those with diaries KDE 3.5.4 is due on the 24th of July: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-release-plan.html > Tom, with all the respect, but judging by the last rush job, you alone are > hardly the "best" person to judge if the release is worded correctly. Too > much computereese. Too many incomplete sentences. I highly suggest peer > review of at least 3-4 pairs of diverse eyes and a "weighted vote" sorta > rough arrangement or understanding. > > Relying on one person, whose personal life is unreliable is completely > unreliable. If you arrange for a system with a good safety net, we don't > have to rely on you any more. You can sleep much more and better. Heh, lovely :) The draft wasn't great but I wanted to get something better than the one floating around out. If 3-4 people can collaborate that sounds ideal. I'd prefer consensus to a vote though - unless somebody vetos with a strong reason we just look for a "yes, that's OK" from a few nominated people who we trust... ... ? Would you like to coordinate things, Danil, or would you prefer to take a back seat and peer review work posted to the list? Regards, Tom -- I'll give £100 to People & Planet if 20 people give £10. Help me help this amazing student activist network! http://www.pledgebank.com/help-pnp _______________________________________________ This message is from the kde-promo mailing list. Visit https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-promo to unsubscribe, set digest on or temporarily stop your subscription.