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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] Promotion Idea: "KMag"...
From:       Mike Martel <mmartel.linux () gmail ! com>
Date:       2006-03-08 21:59:34
Message-ID: 200603081659.34652.mmartel.linux () gmail ! com
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Well, you can research it and so on, as the (eventual) licensing of the 
magazine will come at a later date. I mean, if you can justify it, I'll 
gladly use your suggestion :)

I just don't, personally, see the use. But, of course, we could even select a 
license on a per-article basis...if I write something using the GNU Free Doc 
License, and you write something with a Creative Commons License. That could 
be incorporated, as the actual site itself will just be "property" of KDE 
e.V...

Mike Martel

On Wednesday 08 March 2006 17:45, Kurt Pfeifle wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 March 2006 21:18, Mike Martel wrote:
> > Hmm,
> > 
> > Normally, when a person writes an article for a magazine or something
> > like that, the magazine "owns" the article; I don't quite get what you
> > are trying to get at.
> 
> Easy.
> 
> Exceptionally, when a person writes an article for a magazine or something
> like that (certain websites come to mind too), the publisher "owns" only a
> time-limited exclusiveness for a few weeks; after that, the author is free
> to re-publish the article or derivatives whereever he likes.
> 
> You do not get that by default. You have to ask for it. But it is entirely
> possible. If I've more time later tonight, I'll inquire with TUX magazine
> and with Free Software Mag about their own general ruleset, as well as with
> LWN.net and linuxplanet.com. If I've no time, I'll wait for someone else to
> provide an answer.
> 
> Hey, even *books* like TOSHARG ("The Official Samba HOWTO and Reference
> Guide", 880+ pages) was/is published by Prentice Hall under such an
> agreement, and the complete series of books it is part of as well. I should
> now, because I wrote about 150 pages of it. For proof, just visit Amazon,
> and the Samba website (or do a "find /usr/share/doc/packages -name
> Samba-HOWTO-Collection" on your own system, if you have package "samba-doc"
> or similar installed).
> 
> > This is like saying to not release KDE under the free software license
> > that it's under, as some of the developers want to get paid (and many
> > have jobs and such)...
> 
> Excuse me, no, that analogy is entirely incorrect.
> 
> > We are asking for people to "donate" their writing ability for the good
> > of the magazine,
> 
> "Donate" does not mean they couldn't try to get payment for their effort
> by a third party as long as it allows them to publish the same thing at
> KMag as well (with *some*, not too much delay in time between the two).
> 
> What I'm suggesting is to even encourage that option a bit.
> 
> But no need to discuss this to death now. After all, I can persue this
> route for my own, and once succeeding with it, I can report back and see
> if this is interesting to more people.   :-)
> 
> > and the benefit they have is A. if they are unknown, they have an
> > article (or articles) to their credit for a resume, and B. they know they
> > are helping a community of enthusiasts.
> 
> And if you consider my suggestion, they have an additional benefit of
> 
> c) some more bucks in their pockets
> 
> > It's a volunteer effort,
> 
> Sure.
> 
> > so to speak...it
> > shouldn't be interfering with their professional lives;
> 
> Sure.
> 
> > if the respective
> > writer or other volunteer has to focus on their work, of course their
> > work comes first - that's how I planned it to work.
> 
> It doesnt need to be a contradiction.
> 
> Also, I don't see many professionals to come to our help anyway. But I
> see half a dozen students and other occasional writers get some getting
> some money for their efforts *as* *well* *as* keeping their contributions
> freely available in the long run.
> 
> > Mike Martel
> 
> Cheers,
> Kurt
> 
> 
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