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Subject:    Re: [kde-promo] HCC-dagen ... big event in the Netherlands
From:       Fabrice Mous <fabricemous () xs4all ! nl>
Date:       2003-06-27 14:44:33
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Op vrijdag 27 juni 2003 13:59, schreef Karl-Heinz Zimmer:
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> On Wednesday 25 June 2003 17:24, Fabrice Mous wrote:
> > Hello people,
> > 
> > Today I got an email from the NLLGG (Dutch National LUG) about the
> > upcoming event HCC (http://dot.kde.org/1039221598/)
> 
> Oops, there seems to be a problem: http://www.hccdagen.nl is unreachable.


Well Karl-HeinzI can reach the site ... 
> o)


> I would like to get some more information on
> 
> a) _What_ means 'HCC' and _where_ exactly will it take place?

It takes place in Utrecht and I wrote a small article on it 
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~leintje/kde-nl/hcc2002/hcc2002_e.html)

--snip--
From Friday, November 22, till Sunday, November 24, there was a computer event 
in the Netherlands, called the HCC-dagen which stands for 
HobbyComputerClub(-days). It has become a big event, the biggest in Benelux 
with an estimated 106 000 visitors. 

> b) _Who_ is organizing the HCC?  (is it the NLLGG?)

nope it is 
organisator: HCC
adress: Postbus 149, 3990 DC Houten, The Netherlands
 
 

> 
> c) _Why_ does it cost money to participate for KDE?

Because it is a commercial event. With stands from all sort of shops were you 
can buy stuff. It is a event where people buy loads of stuff for pc usage. 
But also MS and Sun were there last year and some local ip's and so on...

> IMHO if they are interested in seeing KDE there they should give the
> booth place for free - then we would only have to take care for
> presenting ourselfes the right way (bringing tables, a simple wall...)

To put it bluntly ... they to give a **** about KDE and if you are interested 
in having a booth then they will ask you for money. In their eyes the event 
will not have much more glamour when KDE participates (and there are so 
wrong) and just like any other organisation you need to pay. There exists a 
exception to this rule. You can be a Computertotaal-UG and then you can have 
a booth at the UG-pavillion. 

> > Because Linux has some momentum here in the Netherlands they were
> > proposing to unite all linux-related organisations in one hall (sort
> > of pavillion). They asked if KDE want to participate in such an
> > iniative.
> > 
> > I said the usual, that we are non-profit and that we rely on the
> > organizing party if they will let us have a booth for free.
> > 
> > To be honest, I don't think the organisation of the HCC will let us
> > have a booth for free.
> 
> So, please, stay to default way: We get the place for free or we find
> a sponsor paying for it.

Yes, looking for sponsors ... 

> IMHO it would be bad to start paying for booth places!

I feel the same way ... but consider this a big event with 106 000 visitors 
and the biggest event in the Benelux. I never ever thought of paying for a 
booth untill the question came from NLLGG.


> Cheers,
> Karl-Heinz
> 
> PS: And, yes, I would be interested in joining you to help in
> preparations and during the event.  The Netherlands are not
> too far away from the Mosel valley.  :-)

This would be really cool ... remember that you are trying to convince 
windows-users or newbies. 

we will see what happens ... first I need more info from NLLGG. 


Fab

-- 
Fabrice Mous
fabricemous@xs4all.nl
fabrice@kde.nl ~~ http://www.kde.nl
vosberg@suse ~~ http://www.vosberg.be

 
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