From kde-promo Mon Feb 25 19:13:40 2002 From: Navindra Umanee Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 19:13:40 +0000 To: kde-promo Subject: Re: [kde-promo] today's Gnossip X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-promo&m=101466453212850 Neil Stevens wrote: > How do you define troll? I don't brand anyone who happens to disagree > with the popular opinion with a name. The loudest dissent on freekde.org Neither do I. Sustained malicious intent is key, and it's often easy to identify. Wiggle lasted for a while on the dot, until he slipped up and made it easy to brand him as a troll. So did dude13/joe99. There are ones that can be immediately spotted. > was from people who 1) assumed that I blindly obeyed Richard Stallman or > 2) earnestly made arguments that differed with the ones presented by the > site, arguments that are sometimes made by notable KDE contributors. I'm > inclined to label neither as "trolling," as opposed to what I will outline > below from dot.kde.org. Yup, but there were posts from people who knew better, just for the sake of trolling your site. Those posts were repetitive, across articles. > And I had different priorities. I'm asking you what your priorities are: > convenience for the occasional poster seems to outweigh doing something > about obvious troublemakers. Both are being taken care of, it's not one or the other. Like I mentioned before, we do have anti-troll measures. > Look at the one on Red Flag Linux (http://dot.kde.org/1014385110/): Yes, this was a bad article. However we lasted for a *long* time since our previous bad troll attack. People seem to disregard this fact. We were even explicitly targeted by troll-site geekizoid.com, and from hidden forums like trolltalk on Slashdot. > hmm.. and now as I look the ones I was going to point out have obviously > been deleted, as I seem to remember that many following mine were from a > particular anti-Chinese poster. :-) Exactly, trust me when I say we make it difficult for trollers. There are few or no innocent casualties, although there have been repentant trollers. > So, I'll say that vigilant deleting would work, but dot.kde.org editors That does work as part of the solution. > frequently seem busy, so deleting alone isn't enough to contain the > problem, as by the time the deletes happen, the discussion's already been > hijacked. It's been enough so far. Hijacked discussions are indeed the most troublesome, and people always insist on replying to obvious trolls. Later, -N. _______________________________________________ This message is from the kde-promo mailing list. Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-promo to unsubscribe, set digest on or temporarily stop your subscription.