From kde-promo Mon Feb 25 18:45:18 2002 From: Neil Stevens Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 18:45:18 +0000 To: kde-promo Subject: Re: [kde-promo] today's Gnossip X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-promo&m=101466274307599 On Monday February 25, 2002 10:15, Navindra Umanee wrote: > Neil Stevens wrote: > > But what's more important? Adding comfort for occasional posters, or > > saving the regular contributors from floods of abusers? > > I submit that requiring registration on freekde.org never really > stopped the trolls on that site How do you define troll? I don't brand anyone who happens to disagree with the popular opinion with a name. The loudest dissent on freekde.org was from people who 1) assumed that I blindly obeyed Richard Stallman or 2) earnestly made arguments that differed with the ones presented by the site, arguments that are sometimes made by notable KDE contributors. I'm inclined to label neither as "trolling," as opposed to what I will outline below from dot.kde.org. >, although it stopped many people from posting. And I had different priorities. I'm asking you what your priorities are: convenience for the occasional poster seems to outweigh doing something about obvious troublemakers. For freekde I've consciously traded off the desires of occasional posters for the desires of regular readers. > The high barrier of entry pretty much stunted freekde.org's ability to > recruit regular contributors, in my opinion. I say this because most > articles, no matter how good, usually did not have any comments > attached to them. > > Where are the floods of abusers on the dot? Look at the one on Red Flag Linux (http://dot.kde.org/1014385110/): Comment 1 attacks both China and KDE, by dismissing KOffice and playing on the popular blaming of China for spam these days. I'd be inclined to call it a troll - hostility for everything and little to back it up. Comment 2 is my low-content comment - only real issue is a question on multimedia which couldn't be answered easily since the download site was slow and they had no screenshots. hmm.. and now as I look the ones I was going to point out have obviously been deleted, as I seem to remember that many following mine were from a particular anti-Chinese poster. :-) So, I'll say that vigilant deleting would work, but dot.kde.org editors frequently seem busy, so deleting alone isn't enough to contain the problem, as by the time the deletes happen, the discussion's already been hijacked. -- Neil Stevens neil@qualityassistant.com Don't think of a bug as a problem. Think of it as a call to action. _______________________________________________ This message is from the kde-promo mailing list. Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-promo to unsubscribe, set digest on or temporarily stop your subscription.