On Thursday 21 February 2002 02:22 pm, Waldo Bastian wrote:
> On Thursday 21 February 2002 01:48 am, Eva Brucherseifer wrote:
> > And KDE e.V. I know about Martin Konold, Chris Schl=E4ger, Mirko.
> > Anyone else?
>
> The board of KDE e.V. consists of Chris Schlaeger, Kurt Granroth, Mirko
> Boehm and Preston Brown. Mirko is the treasurer.
>
> KDE e.V. has 46 members, /me being one of them.
>
> > At german expos we so far received and are receiving money by KDE e.V=
=2E I
> > asked where the money comes from, but I got only very vague answers.
> > I also got the information that it is not very much.
>
> KDE e.V. receives its money primarily in the form of one-time donations
> either from individuals or companies. There are some companies that don=
ate
> a part of the profit on KDE related articles to KDE e.V. (On the KDE
> website it is listed when a company promises to do that I believe.) Thi=
s
> year KDE e.v. also received some prize money associated with prizes won=
 by
> KDE.
>
> Basically KDE e.V. does not have any substantial source of structural
> revenue. Nor is KDE e.V. actively involved in raising funds at the mome=
nt.
> As far as I know all donations are initiated by the donor.
This is true. But keep in mind that there seems to be an agreement that s=
aying=20
we are open source and begging for money too loud does not seem to fit.=20
>
> Some large donations are listed on http://www.kde.org/thanks.html (I do=
n't
> which time-frame this covers though, cvs should be able to tell you) Th=
ere
> are also donors that wish to remain anonymous.
It is pretty old. But especially the donators that are not related to=20
companies usually do not want to be announced.=20
> Most of the money spent by KDE e.V. is spent on reimbursing travel cost=
s
> for developers who attend events to represent KDE. The policy is that
> organizers of events should reimburs KDE representatives but in cases w=
here
> that is not feasible KDE e.V. is usually able to step in.
>
> To qualify for reimbursement by KDE e.V. you need to send a request to
> Mirko for approval before the event takes place. In general Mirko will
> reimburse you afterwards after receiving your receipts but if you can n=
ot
> afford to pay for your travel upfront it's possible to seek for other
> arrangements.
>
> > Well, maybe we should all forget about the idea, to steadily get some
> > money by "official KDE" to organize events and to have a transparent
> > procedure for this.
I think there is nothing intransparent here. Everybody KDE contributor ma=
y=20
become a KDE e.V. member. Everybody member may ask for reimbursements and=
=20
will get money if the board majority agrees.=20
The board is elected and notified to the public. For unfortunate but=20
understandable reasons, the majority of the board has to focus on other=20
priorities. That leaves me to keep up the job, but at least we get togeth=
er=20
for voting before money gets spend.=20

Is that not transparent? Even what I just said is notified to the public.=
=20
>
> I prefer to see the "official KDE" better organized.=20
I fully agree. And I think KDE e.V. is quite appropriate. IMHO, by still=20
working after quite a number of people are forced to put their time in ot=
her=20
projects, it proved that it is of use.
And I do not see KDE e.V. in the responsibility to do kde-promo work, sor=
ry.=20
This is what the KDE League was formed for. We might pay for expenses,=20
though, despite that our whole budget is too little for the marketing wor=
ld.

Byebye,
--Mirko.
 
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