On Tuesday 12 February 2002 3:51 pm, Philippe FREMY wrote: > I entirely agree that the KDE League should make its actions more publi= c. > We all have the impression that it was once created but that absolutely > nothing has happened since. This is the impressiion I have had and as KDE developers, we should be ke= pt in=20 the loop. > Andreas told us that he was finilizing the budget someting like 6 month= ago > and we have never heard about anything since. > I would appreciate a periodical report of what's going on : meeting, ne= w > members, actions. > I would also like to know what we can actually expect from the KDE Leag= ue > in term of support and promotion. For the moment, I would say nothing! Similer experiences. > I do not agree with Jono on the fact that the League should sponsor > research or usability study. Those thing are expensive and can be done > without money. But printing a big K poster like the one David Faure got= for > the Linux Expo (not from the KDE League) and sending it to Expo organis= ers > is a cheap action. What I mean is contributing to research - for example phone and travel. = could=20 do some decent research papers if I could afford the phone and travel=20 expenses. > On a sidenote, Jono, you should be more careful. KDE and the KDE League > don't owe you anything. Whatever you gave (and you gave much, to the > project, thanx), you gave it for free. Every decision you make to spend > money for helping KDE is your own. Right now, there is nothing that ma= kes > me think about any promised support, especially finicial, from anyone. = The > T-shirts at the Paris Linux Expo were printed on Gerard's own money and= if > none would have been sold, he would have lost 600 euros. I realise this - and I have no problem doing 90% of my stuff for free, bu= t the=20 last 10% I cant do without some kind of funding. The thing which I would like to see is a guidence document on what kind o= f=20 stuff I could possibly get funding for. > I remember a mail from Tink one year ago expressing exactly the same > feeling as yours. There is money but nobody knows how it is beeing spen= t > and if any support is available from the League. Just like you I feel t= his > is not the way it should be done. But I won't bet any penny on a financ= ial > support. > > I would really prefer that the KDE League member create a non-profit > association with an open budget and a clear stance on what is being don= e. I completely agree. The LEague needs to be as open as KDE - if things are= not=20 resolved it is not good for KDE or the League. =09Jono _______________________________________________ This message is from the kde-promo mailing list. Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-promo to unsubscribe, set digest on or temporarily stop your subscription.