From kde-policies Fri Feb 13 17:10:59 2004 From: Andreas Pour Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 17:10:59 +0000 To: kde-policies Subject: Re: Suggested policy (was: Re: Apollon soon in kde-extragear) Message-Id: <402D0523.3289F20B () mieterra ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-policies&m=107669229125586 Waldo Bastian wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri February 13 2004 16:11, Rob Kaper wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2004 at 03:30:25PM +0100, Waldo Bastian wrote: > > > I beg to differ. Several courts have granted themselves jurisdiction > > > based on the idea that by publishing information on the internet you > > > publish this information in the country where this information is read > > > and as such are subject to the laws of that country. > > > > Then for the best interest of KDE and our developers, we should stop > > accepting contributions from such countries and firewall connections from > > them on our CVS/download servers? > > I am not sure what you mean with "such countries". But, yes, that's one way to > deal with legal problems that are bound to a specific jurisdiction. This is par. important w/r/t the mirroring system, it seems. For example, a distributor may package some software unlawful in Dystopia and a Dystopia mirror may mirror it, leaving the hapless KDE supporter in Dystopia off in some Dystopian prison. This would be another reason to update the KDE configure system to make it easy to build subpackages (e.g., each software app has its own package), so that it is easier for mirrors and distributors to filter out things they do not want to distribute (incl. on KDE.org itself - e.g. it is far unlikelier that hosting Apollon sourcecode is an issue, than the binary packages). (Note: one of the difficulties of subpackaging is that the "doc" directory is not often included in the appropriate subdirectory but has its own directory structure, so you cannot just "cd SUBPACKAGE ; make install " and be done with it). > > > I'm sorry, but I refuse to bend over for some foreign government. > > Well, this isn't about you, I don't care what you do on your own server. But > for KDE it is a different matter since KDE is an international project and I > think it is important that all KDE participants, regardless of > citizenship/residency, can legally work on/with KDE without unnecessary risk > of persecution. The primary jurisdictions to worry about are Germany, the EU and the US. One can make refinements to subpackages (using the DISTRIBUTION file I suggested elsewhere as well as perhaps a LEGAL_RISK file in subpackage directories that list countries in which there may be a legal risk, and then adding a "country" option to the build system 'configure' script which greps this file before building the subpackage). But if the proposal really is to comply w/ all the world's jurisdictions I think you need to remove all CD burning software as well as audiocd: from KDE, all GIF code, KHTML (unless it is modified to avoid the Eolas patent - MS's failure to achieve this in IE despite a monumental effort probably means this is not possible), etc. Patent law will prove to be the real nemesis in all this, and any policy we develop must bear this in mind (i.e., not just copyright law). [ ... ] Ciao, Dre _______________________________________________ Kde-policies mailing list Kde-policies@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-policies