From kde-pim Mon May 06 19:42:17 2013 From: Martin Steigerwald Date: Mon, 06 May 2013 19:42:17 +0000 To: kde-pim Subject: Re: [Kde-pim] Marketing blocker collection, DEADLINE: 2013-03-10 Message-Id: <1393557.cAOL2xkS6z () merkaba> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-pim&m=136786935125395 Hi Georg, Am Sonntag, 3. M=E4rz 2013, 12:43:44 schrieb Georg C. F. Greve: > Dear all, > = > True to tradition, we spent a good amount of time talking about when it > would be time to go out and tell the world to give KDE PIM a try. At the > sprint there was unanimous agreement it is time to dispend with this > tradition. Whats the current state with this marketing blocker collection? I now switched to KDEPIM-2 and all I can say from my migration experience a= nd = the experience after migration KDEPIM-2 + Akonadi or more specifically KMai= l-2 = + Akonadi are still quite rough for non test/debug/find-workaround-experien= ced = users. I wouldn=B4t use it as a mail solution in a company right now for example. And I think main show stopper are still correctness, consistency issues, = unhelpful error messages / notifications during daily use - like mail canno= t be = moved or deleted with a maildir mail file name and no reason as to *why* or= way = to fix it up. I find it difficult to trust KDEPIM-2 with my data, although I think I foun= d a = POP3 setup that seems to work, but has some limitations like: 1) No automatic filtering at all. 2) No CRM114 spam filter rules, also not manually. I know: No new issues after DEADLINE. But well, I just started to switch no= w, = and from my experience of the last two weeks I do think it was a wise decis= ion = of Debian Qt/KDE maintainers to still ship with KDEPIM 1. I reported more t= han = 20 bugs and I still found some more during that time. Some might be minor, = but = others are correctness issues that make it difficult for me to trust the = software. Anyway I am fine with no new issues after DEADLINE, except for new bugs bei= ng = found that cause data loss. I am also asking due to "kde-pim hopeless?" thread in kdepim-users. I do no= t = think it is. But I see that it has only few developers who work really hard= . I = think about how users can help, maybe some bug triaging. I try to isolate = repeatable testcases for the gravest bugs I found as time permits. Testing = and = reproducing takes quite some time too. Thanks, -- = Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 _______________________________________________ KDE PIM mailing list kde-pim@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim KDE PIM home page at http://pim.kde.org/