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Hi,

On Friday 10 December 2010 11:54:45 Will Stephenson wrote:
> On 10/12/10 11:27, Andras Mantia wrote:
> > Having an extension for the beta time by itself will not help. If nobody
> > fixes bugs, they won't go away. If developers cannot find time to work =
on
> > kdepim, that's fine, but in this case we should consider of not releasi=
ng
> > kdepim together with 4.6.0. I wish we could, but releasing in its curre=
nt
> > state will do more harm than good, as there are obvious shortcomings bo=
th
> > in migration (very important!) and daily usage.

I agree with Andras here as well, having another beta won't gain us much.
I'll stay out of the discussion whether or not to release KDEPIM with KDE 4=
=2E6=20
or not, as I don't know the current state well enough for that.
KDEPIM definitely would benefit from more developers, as otherwise bugs ind=
eed=20
won't get fixed. Thankfully, there are some developers like Tobias, Laurent=
=20
and Andras actually using KMail2 and therefore contributing some bugfixes,=
=20
which is great. However, IMHO there needs to be a bigger developer base for=
=20
having a healthy project.

> Agreed. And I don't know how it will improve because there is no
> communication from whoever is managing the kmail2 work in KDE PIM or at
> KDAB.

There is no communication because nobody really is managing the work. The=20
developers doing KMail2 bugfixes right now do it to fix their own problems,=
=20
there is no "managing" involved. And KDAB is working on the mobile version,=
 so=20
don't expect any desktop work coming from there. Of course, the shared bits=
=20
like Akonadi benefit from the mobile work a lot.
So since there the work on the desktop version is not much, there is also n=
ot=20
much communication.

> Could someone who is qualified to speak for one of the above give a
> statement on where we stand and where we are going for 4.6 so that my
> imagination doesn't run wild?

Regards,
Thomas

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