On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 03:13, Gaël Beaudoin wrote: > Le vendredi 10 décembre 2010 11:27:14, Andras Mantia a écrit : >> Allen Winter wrote: >> > Howdy, >> > >> > Should I ask the Release Team to insert a third beta into the release >> > schedule. The current schedule calls for the next tagging on 21 Dec to be >> > a Release Candidate. >> > >> > If desired, I could ask for a 2 week extension of the schedule and we >> > would call the 21 Dec tagging Beta3. >> >> Having an extension for the beta time by itself will not help. If nobody >> fixes bugs, they won't go away. If developers cannot find time to work on >> kdepim, that's fine, but in this case we should consider of not releasing >> kdepim together with 4.6.0. I wish we could, but releasing in its current >> state will do more harm than good, as there are obvious shortcomings both >> in migration (very important!) and daily usage. >> >> Andras >> _______________________________________________ >> KDE PIM mailing list kde-pim@kde.org >> https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim >> KDE PIM home page at http://pim.kde.org/ > > As a user and KDE advocate, I completly agree. I've installed 4.6 beta 1 and > while it's miles ahead of what was in 4.5, I've reverted to 4.4.x for KDEPIM. > > I've reported several bugs [1], most of which are rather grave IMO, none of > them have been fixed or commented by a developer (If I'm not wrong). This is > no criticism, this to say : well, it's getting really better, but I really > think you need to wait some more months before releasing the akonadi based > kdepim and let developer do their magic. I've tried to keep using it, but the > multiple current annoyances and bugs make it really hard. > > Having to regularly restart akonadi by hand, having the computer slow due to > virtuoso/nepomul indexing, impossibility to delete some emails, others not > shown, etc, is really hard to cope with. > > On the other hand, the 4.4.x branch is rock stable and pleasant to use. > Consider giving it more time to mature. > I would have to concur. It really is looking good, but as someone who often runs nightlies of the whole SC on my primary machine, I still don't consider Kontact & Co sufficient for daily use yet, due to bugs. I know people in the blogosphere will make a fuss if it's pushed back further, but it's my honest opinion (with no offense meant whatsoever) that they'll have more a of a cause for making a fuss if it's released too early. I guess the question I have is this: for those of use who are new developers, power users, or other people with technical skill, but limited or no knowledge of the KDE-PIM codebase, what can we do to help? I'd love to lend a hand over the Christmas break from university, but it sounds like lack of bug reports isn't really the issue here, and I don't know what else I can do to just jump in. Regards, - Jeffery MacEachern > Gaël > > [1] > https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=kmail2&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&emailreporter1=1&emailtype1=exact&email1=gaboo%40gaboo.org&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= > _______________________________________________ > KDE PIM mailing list kde-pim@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim > KDE PIM home page at http://pim.kde.org/ > _______________________________________________ KDE PIM mailing list kde-pim@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim KDE PIM home page at http://pim.kde.org/