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List:       kde-pim
Subject:    Re: [Kde-pim] KContactManager Name
From:       Thomas Thym <ungethym () mevin ! net>
Date:       2009-04-24 22:01:24
Message-ID: 200904250001.24943.ungethym () mevin ! net
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Hi all,

first: I love the k prefix in KDE Applications. When I started using Linux I didn't \
know witch app was optimized for KDE or GNOME. The k-naming of apps helped me a lot \
to choose the right app and to gain an overview what amount of software the \
KDE-Community created. 

These days, as a user, the naming of the package helps me to choose the right app (at \
least on OpenSUSE the packages are named kde4-ApplicationName).

As many new apps don't follow the k-naming anymore (and I think I recognized a move \
from the brand "K Desktop Environment" to "KDE") I'm not sure if it is too late to go \
back to the k prefix. :-( (But it is still a strong part of KDE history).

Anyway, if I was a developer and if I had a right to vote, my draft-suggestion (at \
23:30 after a long day) would be:

Brand: kAddressBook2 - The KDE Address Book
Name: kAddressBook2
Menu: (The) KDE Address Book
Kontact: Contacts

If all major KDE-Apps are branded "recognizable/unique AppName - The KDE ... \
application" I hope KDE Address Book/Manager doesn't lead to the thought it contains \
only addresses from KDE folks.

Good night,
Thomas

Am Freitag 24 April 2009 22:19:32 schrieb thorsten@staerk.de:
> > At Friday 24 April 2009 13:15, you wrote:
> > > On Friday 24 April 2009 10:26:23 David Jarvie wrote:
> > > > On Thursday 23 April 2009 22:15, Ingo Klöcker wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday 23 April 2009, Sergio Martins wrote:
> > > > > > On Thursday 23 April 2009 16:51:48 Allen Winter wrote:
> > > > > > > Can we pick a new name for the new KAddressBook?
> > > > > > > I'm really not excited about KContactManager.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Not that I have any good suggestions at the moment,
> > > > > > > by KContactManager is too close to Kontact.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If it will replace KAddressBook we could use the same name, no?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > KAddressBook 2
> > > > > 
> > > > > I agree. KAddressBook really is the best name for it although
> > > appending
> > > > > a '2' won't do because KAddressBook is currently at version 4.2
> > > (since
> > > > > it follows the version number of KDE). Maybe append something like
> > > 'NG'
> > > > > or whatever.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In fact, as application name (shown in the UI) "KDE Address Book"
> > > would
> > > > > be even better. Reasoning: We should try to get away from this
> > > > > K-namespacing of our applications. It's so last-century. Moreover,
> > > > > explicitely adding KDE to the application's name will improve the
> > > > > awareness of the KDE brand. FWIW, I'd like to see the same happen
> > > with
> > > > > KMail (-> KDE Mail), KOrganizer (-> KDE Calendar?), etc.
> > > > 
> > > > The name should be descriptive, and kaddressbook (shown as "KDE
> > > Address
> > > > Book" in the menu) or kontacts (shown as "KDE Contacts") are the best
> > > > suggestions so far.
> > > 
> > > +1
> > > 
> > 
> > -1
> > 
> > The "KDE x" formats makes that particular application bound to that
> > designation. If someone writes a better organizer like application, do we
> > switch KDE Calendar to that new application? How does that work?
> > 
> > Mailody would become "KDE Mail 2" then I guess?
> > 
> > Besides, my mother would interpret KDE AddressBook as the addressbook with
> > KDE people. She does not care about that prefix.
> > 
> > Although I know the KDE world is against me, I find the k prefix a strong
> > brand. Just like iPod, iCalendar, iTunes, iMail, iPhone btw.
> 
> +1
> 
> I am not against you :) Let's do a bugzilla democratic decision like for
> ktimetracker :)
> 
> Thorsten
> 
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