From kde-pim Wed Feb 04 20:31:12 2009 From: Ingo =?iso-8859-15?q?Kl=F6cker?= Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:31:12 +0000 To: kde-pim Subject: Re: [Kde-pim] KMail merged folder properties - Bug 115611 Message-Id: <200902042131.19154 () thufir ! ingo-kloecker ! de> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-pim&m=123377957318197 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============0680327230==" --===============0680327230== Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=nextPart1322866.FPnvYQJksg; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit --nextPart1322866.FPnvYQJksg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 04 February 2009, Thomas McGuire wrote: > Hi Jonathan, > > On Tuesday 03 February 2009 18:15:37 Jonathan Marten wrote: > > The bug refers to merging all of the various dialogues relating to > > folder properties - "Mailing List Management", "Expire" and > > "Shortcut" - into tabs of a single folder "Properties" dialogue.=20 > > Maybe a contentious issue, but it's been something that has been > > annoying me for some time - and not just myself, the bug has 3 > > duplicates and 115 votes. > > > > I know that the original tabbed dialogue was split up after a > > usability study. However, that was four years ago... since then, > > more options have been added to the menus (both menu bar and folder > > popup), including some very obscure ones which certainly don't need > > to be available with just a click. The "Properties" dialogue has > > also been changed back from a simple dialogue to a tabbed one, > > having introduced the "Templates" tab. Unfortunately both the > > original study on openusability.org, and the gmane discussion > > referred to in the bug, seem to be now unavailable. > > > > In the absence of specifics from those, I'd be inclined to follow > > the general usability principle that context menus should be as > > brief as possible and should contain only frequently-used options.=20 > > So the options that are now in the tabbed dialogue should be > > removed from the context menu. If that confuses some people who > > now expect them to be there, then they can be reenabled by a hidden > > option. All of the options can be left in the menu bar "Folder" > > menu by default, anyone who would like to remove them from there > > too can edit their rc file. Those options from either menu will > > lead to the appropriate page of the combined "Properties" dialogue. > > > > Prototype screen shots are at: > > > > http://www.keelhaul.me.uk/kde/popupmenu.png > > http://www.keelhaul.me.uk/kde/props1.png > > http://www.keelhaul.me.uk/kde/props2.png > > http://www.keelhaul.me.uk/kde/props3.png > > http://www.keelhaul.me.uk/kde/props4.png > > http://www.keelhaul.me.uk/kde/props5.png > > > > The final "Maintenance" tab is new; it contains some information on > > the folder/index files, and the compaction options. The > > potentially dangerous "Rebuild Index" and "Rebuild IMAP Cache" > > options are only here, not in the popup menu - a casual user > > shouldn't really be using these options. > > > > Any comments? If it is worth going ahead, then I'll post the code > > changes on reviewboard. > > What I definitely agree with is moving things like "Rebuild Index" > out of the context menu. See also Aaron's mail from November, he has > some points about the order of the entries (which changed with the > SoC merge), it would be nice if you can include that. > > In general, I also tend to agree with the rework of the folder > properties dialog. > But I would really like the input of people who were around when the > usability changes were made (Till?), maybe they know the reason for > some of the changes. Please read the corresponding thread: http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kdepim-usability/2004-November/thread.html Unfortunately, openusability.org doesn't seem to respond so I cannot=20 download their report atm. :-( Note that I'm against reverting the changes we made to the folder=20 properties dialog 4 years ago unless you can present a usability study=20 that shows that putting everything back into the folder properties=20 dialog improves the usability. 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