From kde-pim Mon Nov 10 23:30:25 2008 From: Ingo =?iso-8859-1?q?Kl=F6cker?= Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:30:25 +0000 To: kde-pim Subject: Re: [Kde-pim] KMail Usability Issues Message-Id: <200811110030.26412 () thufir ! ingo-kloecker ! de> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-pim&m=122635988319211 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============0826194448==" --===============0826194448== Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary=nextPart6743313.QYSyHgueTB; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit --nextPart6743313.QYSyHgueTB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 10 November 2008, Matthias Fuchs wrote: > Hi, > > after a short period of using KMail (stopped using it many months ago > after IMAP issues) I found some -- imho -- usability issues: Please tell us which version of KMail you used. ... Okay, below you have=20 written that you used "the latest factory packages of opensuse" which=20 means you have tried KMail 1.10.x (plus whatever openSUSE merged back=20 from the current development version). > * is there an easy way to use the filters on all folders/or on > certain folders? With that I mean I set up my account, downloaded a > lot mails and set the filters _afterwards_, but did not find an easy > way to filter the already downloaded mails --> in the end I marked > all mails =46ilters can only be applied to the selected messages. > * what is the difference between a normal-filter and a pop-filter? POP filters are applied before a message is downloaded from a POP=20 account. This way one can get rid of spam without downloading the whole=20 spam message. Normal filters are applied to new messages in the IMAP inbox resp. to=20 messages downloaded from a POP account (after the download of the full=20 message) or a local mailbox. > I think I know it though I think this extra menu-entry does no good What do you propose instead? > * wth are "Sieve"-scripts? there is no information provided there > what that could mean, no help-button or whatever If you don't know, don't bother. What do you propose? Hide everything=20 some users might not know? > * the text-area of the "mail-preview"-window is relatively small > because of the large size of the header and the topic, an option to > collapse it (Thunderbird, *hint*, *hint* ;) ) would be great That really depends on your monitor. And please don't quote Thunderbird.=20 I'm using Thunderbird on Windows at work and it lacks so many nice=20 features KMail has and it has quite a few usability issues that get=20 into my way of working that I regularly curse it. > * changing the icon of my favorite folder: there are only a few chars > under the pictures like "in..." or "a..." I cannot reproduce this with KMail 1.9.10. Here the names of most icons=20 are not truncated. Maybe it depends on the font size. > * I think another very useful function of thunderbird should be > introduced: an option to show messages grouped in the (hmm what is it > called)-bar --> where you can sort the messages after title, date > etc. Something like this has been added to the development version on the=20 last weekend. > I tested that on the latest factory packages of opensuse, as I'm > currently only running base and libs from trunk (in fact with another > user). > > If you think the points I raised here are no issues or that I should > have searched more, well then simply see this message as my user > experience. Some of your points might be valid, but if you do not make proposals how=20 to fix those issues ... > Btw. there are some features I *really* like, like when you search > for a mail that you also see the parent mails of the discussion, that > is really great and a lot better than the confusion thunderbird > provides one with in that case! Yeah. That's really one of the things I absolutely hate about=20 Thunderbird. Another thing is that if grouping/threading is enabled it=20 is not possible to sort the groups/threads because each click on one of=20 the other columns immediately disables grouping. > Also the favorites are a good idea, especially if you have many > mailboxes + folders.=20 Do you know the somewhat hidden Jump to Folder feature? Press j and then=20 simply type an arbitrary part of the name of the folder. Move (m) and=20 Copy (c) work similarly. Moreover, you can assign shortcuts to your=20 most often used folders. Just to name a few more features for quickly=20 switching between folders. :-) Regards, Ingo --nextPart6743313.QYSyHgueTB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkkYxBIACgkQGnR+RTDgudj85gCg1on7Lpd0lSJ1IKiUswHe0aeQ 56EAn1f0lX2552tYDA3LflVEjjQ4hVvq =eZDI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6743313.QYSyHgueTB-- --===============0826194448== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ KDE PIM mailing list kde-pim@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim KDE PIM home page at http://pim.kde.org/ --===============0826194448==--