From kde-pim  Wed Apr 30 14:59:13 2008
From: Bertjan Broeksema <b.broeksema () kdemail ! net>
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:59:13 +0000
To: kde-pim
Subject: Re: [Kde-pim] KDEPIM 4.1?
Message-Id: <200804301659.13496.b.broeksema () kdemail ! net>
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On Wednesday 30 April 2008 15:57:50 Allen Winter wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 April 2008 07:04:13 Sebastian Kuegler wrote:
> > On Wednesday 30 April 2008 04:26:54 Allen Winter wrote:
> > > Sebas' "Alpha1" announcement on the Dot [1] promises KDE-PIM
> > > as part of the 4.1 release.
> > >
> > > I have strong doubts about this.  We need to discuss.
> > >
> > > There are several apps (KPilot, KMobileTools, KitchenSync,..)
> > > that haven't been touched for a long time.  And other
> > > apps that are still a long way from being releasable.
> > > And another set (KMailCVT, Korn, ..) that I really have
> > > no idea about their status.
> > >
> > > One idea is to eliminate kdepim and move any of the apps
> > > that people still care about and actively maintain to extragear.
> > >
> > > Certainly, it is time for a review of what we have and what
> > > we need to jettison into unmaintained.  But, more importantly,
> > > I simply don't see the our flagship apps being ready
> > > in the next couple months.
> > >
> > > Thoughts or comments?
> >
> > Which apps are ready? KMail and KOrganizer, I gather? How about
> > KAddressbook? Knotes? Akregator? That would make for a good PIM (it's the
> > apps I use anyway ;-)).
> >
> > Not that I was able to try them, yet...
>
> Some folks say KMail is ready.  I'm not so sure.
>
> KAlarm and KTimeTracker.. probably.
>
> Helio says KNode is ready.  I'll take his word for it.
>
> Kaddressbook is pretty bad, IMO.
>
> Akregator is getting better.  It can probably be ready.
>
> Kleopatra is maintained by KDAB, so I guess it will be ready.
>
> KOrganizer is pretty bad and so is Kontact (the summaries suck
> and some of the plugins are broken).
>
> I don't know about KNotes
>
> KPilot, Korn, KMobileTools, KMailCVT haven't had commits in so long
> that I have great doubts about their usefulness and quality.
>
> And, the various kresources for groupware, kolab, scalix, slox, etc...
> who knows.  We need testers for those.

I can confirm KPilot lack of usefullness. It compiles and runs but all 
conduits needs to be ported to the new framework. I plan to have that 
finished after this summer.

regards,

Bertjan
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