From kde-pim Tue Oct 02 17:23:39 2007 From: Timothy Cahill Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:23:39 +0000 To: kde-pim Subject: Re: [Kde-pim] troubleshooting tips? Message-Id: <47027E9B.50800 () geniehomemagic ! com> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-pim&m=119134588414177 Great. Thanks for helping, Will. So far... tcahill@suse:~> dcop kded networkstatus status Not enough arguments (expected 0, got 0). tcahill@suse:~> rpm -V kdelibs3 SM5....T /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/kded_networkstatus.la S.5....T /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/kded_networkstatus.so S.5....T /opt/kde3/lib/libnetworkstatus.so.0.0.0 S.5....T /opt/kde3/share/services/kded/networkstatus.desktop Is it significant that the last four entries show S.S instead of SMS? For kdelibs3, I have kdelibs3 = 3.5.7-79.2@i586 The most recent addition to my kdelibs3 changelog are: 2007-09-17 stbinner@suse.de q - fix build for < 10.3 - fix bug 301648: Cannot select "remote charset" in Konqueror So I think it's fresh... While the following reads like a linear progression, I'm actually recursing through it as I understand more, and I'm updating this reply to indicate my progress though the issue. With that said, based on some info obtained from Smart package manager (referred to below), I did a google search for "kdepim3-networkstatus 3.5.7" and found the following. I believe the issue you were addressing back in June: Subject: Re: [opensuse] KDE 3.5.5 -> 3.5.7 upgrade conflict: http://readlist.com/lists/suse.com/suse-linux-e/22/111982.html is probably related to my issue. Because here's the smoking gun: >From Smart, Check All Packages shows: Unsatisfied dependency: kdelibs3-3.5.7-79.2@i586 conflicts with kdepim3-networkstatus-3.5.5-36@i586 However, I don't see a more recent version of kdepim3-networkstatus, and Smart's "fix all problems" wants to remove it. I hadn't realized that kdepim3-networkstatus had become obsolete, and I had been hanging on to those 3.5.5 packages, thinking they were necessary. Yast2 hadn't been complaining about dependency issues, and it never occurred to me to double check with Smart until now. (Smart, of course, is another issue) So I'm going to allow Smart to delete the offending package, and see how that changes things. Delete. Log out. Restart X. And... it didn't help. :( Kmail still thinks it has checked the mail, but kdepim3-networkstatus (-3.5.5-36@i586 and any other version) is gone, and I'm not getting the conflict error for kdelibs3, although I will double-check. Wait a minute. There is a 3.5.6-80.1@586 version! Didn't see that earlier, but I've just updated Smart... Upgrading....! I hope it isn't an OpenSuse 10.3 version... I notice that Smart isn't asking to upgrade the other 3.5.6-80.1 versions I can see. Opps: "file /opt/kde3/share/mimelnk/application/x-sqlite2.desktop from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-80.1 conflicts with file from package koffice-database-1.6.2-8.1 file /opt/kde3/share/mimelnk/application/x-sqlite3.desktop from install of kdelibs3-3.5.7-80.1 conflicts with file from package koffice-database-1.6.2-8.1 OK? (I wish there was an "No, not OK" button.)" So, in for a penny, in for a pound, as somebody once said. I'm going to install all the kde/koffice updates and see where that lands me. (If all else fails, I've got my trusty OpenSuse 10.2 DVD ready on stand-by). I'm hoping that my KDE system was in some intermediate state and a wholesale update will resolve things. I will update this list with any outcome.... Will Stephenson wrote: > On Monday 01 October 2007, Timothy Cahill said: >> I've had a look around http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/, >> and perhaps someone (Hello, Will?) could point me at the right debug >> builds? > > Before building a debug build, I think the network status system may be > confused. > > What does "dcop kded networkstatus status" return? If it says "wrong number > of arguments", make sure your kdelibs3 is up to date, and verify it with > rpm -V, reinstalling if there is a problem. > > If it says '1' (no network status information available) or '8' (online) it > means the problem lies elsewhere. > > If it says '6' then according to the network status system you are offline, so > KMail suppresses its mail checks. > > In that case, are you using KNetworkManager but are not currently connected to > a network using it, and have used eg kppp or wvdial to dial up? What > does "dcop kded networkstatus networks" return? > > Will > > _______________________________________________ > KDE PIM mailing list kde-pim@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim > KDE PIM home page at http://pim.kde.org/ > _______________________________________________ KDE PIM mailing list kde-pim@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim KDE PIM home page at http://pim.kde.org/