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List:       kde-pim
Subject:    Re: [Kde-pim] Usability help needed for KPilot
From:       Reinhold Kainhofer <reinhold () kainhofer ! com>
Date:       2003-04-24 7:32:27
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On Thursday 24 April 2003 01:09, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> On Monday 21 April 2003 21:07, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> > Right. The idea is that this will eventually not be a dialog, but a page
> > inside KPilot itself. See snapshot9.png (same address) for what I had in
> > mind.

Wow, cool. I really like that layout (maybe the items in the list need to be 
reordered, but that's a minor issue)...
And it seems we get a calendar and a generic database viewer!!! And I thought 
you were busy playing with junior. (Or does she wake you up every few minutes 
so you cannot get sleep anyway, so you have plenty of time for KDE? )

> Muddling forward,
>
> http://www.cs.kun.nl/~adridg/snapshot1[4567].png

They all look good. Although I'm not sure if the step with the description and 
the configure button is really needed (okay, it makes thing easier for us 
since we don't have to deal with the question when to apply the settings,  
whether to ask the user, and also the conduits don't have to be in memory all 
the time). 
The question is, how do the users expect the configuration dialog to work? 

> are four shots of what the dialog looks like with "swallowed" configuration
> dialogs. The code changes in each of the conduits are trivial, just a
> little class shuffling. I do need to deal with resizing better, though, as
> you can tell in snapshot16 and 17, where the edges of the swallowed tab
> widgets becomes invisible.

At least the setup dialog had an explicit minimum size set in the ui file, 
which caused a similar  behavior. I fixed that a few days ago in CVS. Maybe 
it's the same with your dialog? (Every now and then, I usually  select each 
container and check which options are set, and which are unnecessary, like 
the LayoutMargin and LayoutSpacing set to 11 and 6 which would be the default 
anyway...).

Reinhold
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