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Subject:    [Kde-pim] Re: [Kroupware] Embedding KOrganizer via KParts into KMail.
From:       Ingo =?iso-8859-15?q?Kl=F6cker?= <kloecker () kde ! org>
Date:       2002-09-16 23:41:30
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On Monday 16 September 2002 10:41, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
> [Please reply to kroupware@kde.org]
>
> On Monday 16 September 2002 10:27, Don Sanders wrote:
> > Basically you are suggesting turning KMail into Kroupware
>
> That's not what we do: We use KMail to _embed_ KOrganizer.
>
> We are not 'turning' KMail into something else.  :-D
>
> > and this will require adding complexity to KMail.
>
> This complexity will be hidden in KMail.

And it will bloat KMail's code. This is exactly what we don't want.

> > People who just want a standalone mail client will not appreciate
> > that extra complexity.
>
> They won't even notice that the complexity is there.

Yes, they will, when the application startup time increases by 10 
µseconds. No, just kidding. The users probably won't notice this. But 
we, the developers, will notice the increased complexity of the code.

> Please (and I mean _please_) try to be nice and stop making our way
> bad as we are not accusing you for following your way!
>
> IIRC (and I am pretty sure I do) we agreed to follow our different
> ways and show the results to the world...

I had a look at the screenshots of both approaches and I have to admit 
that I really don't like your approach (resp. the second screenshot). 
The KOrganizer which is squeezed into the small message preview pane in 
KMail looks really awful. My preview pane is even smaller than the one 
in the screenshot. So it would look even more silly and be even more 
unusable on my machine.

> You are following your way, we are following ours, in the end people
> will look at both and decide which one they like most: not because
> of our words but because of the results!

See above. So far I prefer the Kaplan approach.

OTOH, things like the meeting announcement should probably really be 
shown directly in KMail (as in your first screenshot).

Just my 2˘,
Ingo

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