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Subject:    [Kde-pim] Re: opps! batteries died, so I need to restore palm from backup, and can't
From:       Aron Insinga <aki () insinga ! com>
Date:       2001-10-15 3:25:24
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I forwarded the problem with http://bugs.kde.org/db/pa/lkpilot/ to kde.org.

Yes, I had the files backed up in a couple of partitions, but all on the same 
machine; thanks for the reminder to store a copy elsewhere too.  [I actually 
found where they were in the backup of my directory tree using find 
and grep for a name I knew was in the address book.]

I was able to do the restore very simply with pilot-xfer.  Thank you very 
much!!

Yes, I can code.  FWIW, I think that being able to dump any data to text 
files that can be processed with many different very common tools (i.e. grep, 
emacs, sed, or any scripting or programming language) is good.  Raw text is 
good.  XML is good.  I don't know how KNotes stores its data, but in general, 
sooner or later I get very frustrated with binary files that can only be read 
with a particular tool that depends on other complex things such as a 
particular windowing environment.  (Many years ago I helped build a rapid 
development environment that saved workspaces to binary files, and it turned 
out to be a real pain.  I *have* edited binary files on several systems with 
emacs but I try not to remember such things too often.)

Thanks again for your help.

- Aron


On Thursday 11 October 2001 13:42, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> [Please, use one of the lists when reporting problems. Heiko honestly has
> had nothing to do with KPilot for months now (AFAIK) and he certainly
> didn't write any of the restore code.]
>
> On Thursday 11 October 2001 18:37, you wrote:
> > The problem on the top of the stack:
> >
> > On page
> >   http://bugs.kde.org/db/pa/lkpilot/
> > when I click on the URL for
> >   #28231: Palmpilot restore finishes immediatly without effect
> >   Package: kpilot; Reported by: christo at enervision de; Age: 96 days;
> > 96 days old.
> > I get
> >   404 Not FoundNot Found The requested URL /db/pa/28/28231.html was not
> > found on this server.
>
> That would be a problem with the bugs database for KDE, not for us. I
> believe
>
> I had trouble looking for bugreports recently, as well. Anyway:
> > I didn't replace the batteries in my palm vii soon enough (my fault!) so
> > it's reverted to like new.  I tried doing a restore with kpilot and when
> > it asked: Replace all data on Pilot with local data?
> > I clicked on Yes.  It ran very quickly and didn't restore the data
> > (address book, memos, calendar, todo list).  This is repeatable.
> >
> > kpilot pulldown list says 4.0.1
> > kpilot about box says 4.0b2 (Using kde 2.1.1)
> > kde control center says kde version 2.1.1 release 2.4.2-2
> > Linux 2.4.2-2
>
> That's getting on in age, there -- not that recent releases were any
> better, mind you. Using the *current* (CVS HEAD) kpilot you can restore
> stuff, for sure, since that's a total rewrite of the application.
> However...
>
> > Is there any prayer of being able to restore all of the data?
>
> Yes. First let's make sure you have it:
>
> 1) Look in ~/.kde/share/apps/kpilot/ There should be directories DBbackup
> (or somesuch) and pending_install. DBbackup is the one you want.
>
> 2) Under Dbbackup you should find your user name, ie. Aron Insinga/. Look
> in there.
>
> 3) There should be a whole mess of .pdb and .prc files there. Yes? Copy
> them safely to another directory. Make a copy on a floppy. Move that floppy
> to another building. Now make another copy. Have I mentioned that making
> backups is important?
>
> 4) You can now use pilot-xfer (included in pilot-link, which is what KPilot
> uses) to copy either individual databases or the whole thing back. For
> example:
>
> 	pilot-xfer -i AddressDB.pdb
>
> should restore your address book. Repeat for all useful databases.
>
> > Is there a way to export all of the memos at once (like the address
> > book)?
>
> No. Where to? The KNotes conduit exports them to KNotes; I've never
> considered exporting all memos to be a useful feature (but apparently you
> think so). Can you code? Then it's all in memoWidget.cc.
>
> > Hmm, I don't see calendar on the kpilot pulldown list, just memos,
> > addresss book and file installer.  Are the calendar and to do list part
> > of the backup?
>
> Yes they are (assuming you did a full backup at least once in the life of
> your Palm VII) -- they'd be in DatebookDB.pdb. They are synchronized by
> external conduits, not by the internal bits of KPilot.
>
> > Thanks for any advice you can send.
>
> Hope this helps. And remember, do make backup copies of your pdb exery now
> and then.
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