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Subject: Re: Discussion for Virtual Desktops and Activities future
From: Michail Vourlakos <mvourlakos () gmail ! com>
Date: 2018-07-13 21:05:51
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I find it very constructive in the discussion that everyone speaks its
mind in order to understand better what we are trying to accomplish
here. Based on that I think that there are some goals that almost
all agree.
G1: Simplify the Activities/VDs infrastructure for kwin and plasma desktop
in order to improve its maintenability
G2: Support workflows for groups A and B
G3: Improve the UI that Activities/VDs (MERGE) are presented to users
Based on G1-3 I think that we can see wayland as opportunity and not
as burden and improve the Activities/VDs area
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Goals that are still communicated without reaching a "We all agree" state:
*G4: Support group C and not make them feel as a second citizen in Plasma
in comparison with groups A and B
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2018-07-13 22:59 GMT+03:00 Marco Martin <notmart@gmail.com>:
> so there would be some desktops fused with an activity some not.
> the association could be 1:1 or m:n.. tough i see m:n would risk to
> gather again a very confusing ui
>
>
Marco and Nate, concerning the UI approach I have in my mind the following
Group A:
- a. Pager should work as now
- b. VDs switching/handling (small view), needs probably something like
the Activity Switcher
- c. VDs switching/handling (big view), Present Desktops kwin effect is
really nice
Group B:
- a. Pager should work as now
- b. Activities switching/handling(small view), I think the current
Activity Switcher is just fine
- c. Activities switching/handling (big view), Present Activities kwin
effect would be really rice
Group C:
- a. Pager, probably the user just needs to choose between A and B
- b. Activities/VDs switching handling (small view): maybe just a
column like the Activity Switcher is doing
- c. Activities/VDs switching handling (big view):
There is already work on this :) from WorkFlow project in Plasma 4 era....
Mockup: http://i.imgur.com/uO1KYl.jpg
Implementation: http://i.imgur.com/1Z01D.jpg
Article that justifies the mockup:
https://psifidotos.blogspot.com/2012/03/activities-and-workareas-draft.html
There is a chance that b(s) for all groups can be the same UI that changes
accordingly and
c(s) the same kwin effect, there also some work on this area from :
https://github.com/ajoshpratt/kwinOverview
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div>I find it very constructive in the discussion that \
everyone speaks its</div><div>mind in order to understand better what we are trying \
to accomplish</div><div>here. Based on that I think that there are some goals that \
almost</div><div>all agree.</div><div><br></div><div>G1: Simplify the Activities/VDs \
infrastructure for kwin and plasma desktop <br></div><div>in order to improve its \
maintenability</div><div><br></div><div>G2: Support workflows for groups A and \
B</div><div><br></div><div>G3: Improve the UI that Activities/VDs (MERGE) are \
presented to users</div><div><br></div><div>Based on G1-3 I think that we can see \
wayland as opportunity and not</div><div>as burden and improve the Activities/VDs \
area</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>----<br></div><div><br></div><div>Goals \
that are still communicated without reaching a "We all agree" \
state:</div><div><br></div><div>*G4: Support group C and not make them feel as a \
second citizen in Plasma</div><div>in comparison with groups A and \
B</div><div><br></div>----</div><div><br></div><div></div><div><br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-07-13 22:59 GMT+03:00 Marco \
Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:notmart@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">notmart@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> so there would be some desktops fused with an \
activity some not.<br> the association could be 1:1 or m:n.. tough i see m:n would \
risk to<br> gather again a very confusing ui<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div></div><br><div>Marco and Nate, concerning the UI \
approach I have in my mind the following</div><div><br></div><div>Group A:</div><div> \
- a. Pager should work as now</div><div> - b. VDs switching/handling (small \
view), needs probably something like the Activity Switcher</div><div> - c. VDs \
switching/handling (big view), Present Desktops kwin effect is really \
nice<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Group B:</div><div> - a. Pager should \
work as now</div><div> - b. Activities switching/handling(small view), I think \
the current Activity Switcher is just fine</div><div> - c. Activities \
switching/handling (big view), Present Activities kwin effect would be really \
rice<br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><div>Group C:</div><div> - a. \
Pager, probably the user just needs to choose between A and B</div><div> - b. \
Activities/VDs switching handling (small view): maybe just a column like the Activity \
Switcher is doing<br></div><div> - c. Activities/VDs switching handling (big \
view):</div><div></div><div>There is already work on this :) from WorkFlow project in \
Plasma 4 era....</div><div>Mockup: <a \
href="http://i.imgur.com/uO1KYl.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/uO1KYl.jpg</a><br></div><div>Implementation: \
<a href="http://i.imgur.com/1Z01D.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1Z01D.jpg</a></div><div>Article \
that justifies the mockup: <a \
href="https://psifidotos.blogspot.com/2012/03/activities-and-workareas-draft.html">htt \
ps://psifidotos.blogspot.com/2012/03/activities-and-workareas-draft.html</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>There \
is a chance that b(s) for all groups can be the same UI that changes accordingly \
and</div><div>c(s) the same kwin effect, there also some work on this area from : <a \
href="https://github.com/ajoshpratt/kwinOverview">https://github.com/ajoshpratt/kwinOv \
erview</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div>
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