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Subject: Re: Discussion for Virtual Desktops and Activities future
From: Michail Vourlakos <mvourlakos () gmail ! com>
Date: 2018-07-12 21:36:02
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2018-07-12 17:43 GMT+03:00 Marco Martin <notmart@gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 9:28 PM Michail Vourlakos <mvourlakos@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > unfortunately not David, family matters prevent me from attending
>
> That's too bad, I'm still looking forward to some day, somehow making
> an in person meeting with you and other lattedock people happen..
>
>
unfortunately for the last nine months I am the only one "Latte" person. I
have
lost contact with Johan the second developer we were working with. We
disagreed at some point were Latte was heading and afterwards I couldnt
establish any further communication.
>
> In the meantime, can you provide a clear summary on what are the
> features/behaviors you expect for lattedock users' need?
>
>
I suppose you are referring to Activities/VDs topic.
Based on that the most advanced feature for lattedock users
is going to be introduced with Latte v0.8 next week.
That is multiple layouts(panel/docks) loaded simultaneously
based on the Activities running.
That is of course X11 centric until Activities-support for windows is
introduced
somehow in wayland.
A demonstration can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utBQTIsJKTU
What Latte is doing, is that can set for its panels/docks to belong
in different Activities. The Latte docks/panels are always OnAllDesktops so
if in the future there will not be a combination of Activities and VDs at
the
same time it isnt important for Latte.
As a plasma user I am a [Multiple Activities and 1 VD] user so I am get used
in that workflow and I wouldnt like to miss it :)
Concerning Latte users demographics what I have in my mind without any
study but only based on the personal communication, the users are separated
like
this:
[A] - 75% (1 Activity + Multiple VDs)
[B] - 20% (Multiple Activities + 1 VD)
[C] - 5% (Multiple Activities + Multiple Desktops)
The above image keeps me focused on the features that must be definitely
supported and what bugs are very important...
Some of [C] group members I think that can become [B] group users
with better organization of their workflows to different Activities.
The thing is that [C] group members are very difficult to find in order to
understand their needs...
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<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">2018-07-12 17:43 GMT+03:00 Marco Martin <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:notmart@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">notmart@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-">On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 \
at 9:28 PM Michail Vourlakos <<a \
href="mailto:mvourlakos@gmail.com">mvourlakos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> \
><br> > unfortunately not David, family matters prevent me from \
attending<br> <br>
</span>That's too bad, I'm still looking forward to some day, \
somehow making<br> an in person meeting with you and other lattedock people \
happen..<br> <br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>unfortunately for the \
last nine months I am the only one "Latte" person. I \
have</div><div>lost contact with Johan the second developer we were working \
with. We <br></div><div>disagreed at some point were Latte was heading and \
afterwards I couldnt</div><div>establish any further \
communication.<br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid \
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> <br>
In the meantime, can you provide a clear summary on what are the<br>
features/behaviors you expect for lattedock users' need?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I suppose you are referring to \
Activities/VDs topic.</div><div>Based on that the most advanced feature for \
lattedock users</div><div>is going to be introduced with Latte v0.8 next \
week.</div><div>That is multiple layouts(panel/docks) loaded \
simultaneously</div><div>based on the Activities \
running.</div><div><br></div><div>That is of course X11 centric until \
Activities-support for windows is introduced</div><div>somehow in \
wayland.</div><div>A demonstration can be found here: <a \
href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utBQTIsJKTU">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utBQTIsJKTU</a></div><div><br></div><div>What \
Latte is doing, is that can set for its panels/docks to belong</div><div>in \
different Activities. The Latte docks/panels are always OnAllDesktops \
so</div><div>if in the future there will not be a combination of Activities \
and VDs at the <br></div><div>same time it isnt important for \
Latte.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div></div><div>As a plasma \
user I am a [Multiple Activities and 1 VD] user so I am get \
used</div><div>in that workflow and I wouldnt like to miss it \
:)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Concerning Latte users \
demographics what I have in my mind without any <br></div><div>study but \
only based on the personal communication, the users are separated \
like</div><div>this:</div><div><br></div><div>[A] - 75% (1 Activity + \
Multiple VDs)<br></div><div>[B] - 20% (Multiple Activities + 1 \
VD)</div><div>[C] - 5% (Multiple Activities + Multiple \
Desktops)<br></div><div><br></div><div>The above image keeps me focused on \
the features that must be definitely</div><div>supported and what bugs are \
very important...</div><div><br></div><div>Some of [C] group members I \
think that can become [B] group users</div><div>with better organization of \
their workflows to different Activities.</div><div>The thing is that [C] \
group members are very difficult to find in order to</div><div>understand \
their needs...<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br></div><br></div></div>
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