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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    D13481: Recommend window border size "None"
From:       Martin_Flöser <noreply () phabricator ! kde ! org>
Date:       2018-06-20 18:12:51
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graesslin added a comment.


  In D13481#279575 <https://phabricator.kde.org/D13481#279575>, @davidedmundson \
wrote:  
  > There are two visual hints when the mouse is inside the deadzone.
  >
  >   You would still get the different cursor
  >   The client gets the mouse left event and would not show any hover effect on \
whatever control might be there.  
  
  Which might already be problematic. E.g. for things like first person shooters \
(please don't tell me that nobody would use a fps in windowed mode. This is an \
example for problems with the dead zone). Basically we break the complete idea of \
window snapping.  
  I don't like this change. I fear it will create much harm for questionable visual \
improvements. I recommend against this.

REPOSITORY
  R31 Breeze

REVISION DETAIL
  https://phabricator.kde.org/D13481

To: romangg, #plasma, #vdg
Cc: ngraham, davidedmundson, graesslin, abetts, mart, plasma-devel, ragreen, Pitel, \
ZrenBot, lesliezhai, ali-mohamed, jensreuterberg, sebas, apol


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<table><tr><td style="">graesslin added a comment.
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<div style="font-style: normal;
          padding-bottom: 4px;">In <a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D13481#279575" style="background-color: #e7e7e7;  \
border-color: #e7e7e7;  border-radius: 3px;
          padding: 0 4px;
          font-weight: bold;
          color: black;text-decoration: none;">D13481#279575</a>, <a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/p/davidedmundson/" style="  border-color: #f1f7ff;
              color: #19558d;
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                border-radius: 3px;
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                padding: 0 4px;">@davidedmundson</a> wrote:</div>
<div style="margin: 0;
          padding: 0;
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          color: rgb(107, 116, 140);"><p>There are two visual hints when the mouse is \
inside the deadzone.</p>

<div class="remarkup-code-block" style="margin: 12px 0;" data-code-lang="text" \
data-sigil="remarkup-code-block"><pre class="remarkup-code" style="font: 11px/15px \
&quot;Menlo&quot;, &quot;Consolas&quot;, &quot;Monaco&quot;, monospace; padding: \
12px; margin: 0; background: rgba(71, 87, 120, 0.08);">You would still get the \
different cursor The client gets the mouse left event and would not show any hover \
effect on whatever control might be there.</pre></div></div> </blockquote>

<p>Which might already be problematic. E.g. for things like first person shooters \
(please don&#039;t tell me that nobody would use a fps in windowed mode. This is an \
example for problems with the dead zone). Basically we break the complete idea of \
window snapping.</p>

<p>I don&#039;t like this change. I fear it will create much harm for questionable \
visual improvements. I recommend against this.</p></div></div><br \
/><div><strong>REPOSITORY</strong><div><div>R31 Breeze</div></div></div><br \
/><div><strong>REVISION DETAIL</strong><div><a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D13481">https://phabricator.kde.org/D13481</a></div></div><br \
/><div><strong>To: </strong>romangg, Plasma, VDG<br /><strong>Cc: </strong>ngraham, \
davidedmundson, graesslin, abetts, mart, plasma-devel, ragreen, Pitel, ZrenBot, \
lesliezhai, ali-mohamed, jensreuterberg, sebas, apol<br /></div>



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