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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: Default touch screen edge gestures
From:       Martin_Gräßlin <mgraesslin () kde ! org>
Date:       2017-04-11 10:32:18
Message-ID: 8143DC38-BFD7-495D-856B-43EA82F4EBA2 () kde ! org
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Am 11. April 2017 11:23:01 MESZ schrieb Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen <admin@leinir.dk>:
> Heyhey :)
> 
> i do rather like the idea of edge gestures, however i would also quite
> like 
> to keep in mind applications here...

we discussed the proposed implementation at the affenfels sprint. Why did you not \
raise this concern there?

I explicitly asked for the "go for it!" prior to spending time on implementing. Now \
coming up with additional requirements after the implementation is rather unfair.

> Specifically, other touch-focused
> UXes all 
> have some kind of concept of edges given over to the applications
> rather than 
> the system. Windows has the bottom edge, Android has both sides, Jolla
> has the 
> top edge, and iOS has... both sides as well if i'm not too far
> mistaken.
> What i imagine we might do is to make it eight locations rather than
> four, 
> to allow us to emulate various options (which i suspect would be very
> useful 
> for experimentation as well). That is, the four edges, and the four
> corners.
> The most important point i am trying to make here is, though, that if
> you 
> have a maximised application on screen, it seems to me that if we are
> aiming 
> for convergence, might it not make sense to have similar gestures as
> the 
> default for all the form factors our software runs on?
> 
> On Saturday, 8 April 2017 10:24:04 BST Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > Hi Plasmates,
> > 
> > now that we have touch screen edge swipe gesture support both on X11
> and
> > Wayland we could define which actions to put on each edge.
> > 
> > My suggestion would be to put a sensible action on each of the four
> > actions.
> > 
> > Personal proposal:
> > 
> > *Left Edge:*
> > Window Switching as the default alt+tab theme is on the left side.
> Also
> > on Windows 10 this happens on the left edge.
> > 
> > *Top Edge:*
> > Present Windows as 4 finger swipe downwards on touchpad triggers
> present
> > windows.
> > 
> > *Bottom Edge:*
> > Desktop Grid as 4 finger swipe upwards on touchpad triggers desktop
> > grid.
> > 
> > *Right Edge:*
> > Application launcher
> > 
> > 
> > What I dislike about the proposal is: Present Windows and Alt+Tab are
> > kind of redundant. Given that a better default edge would be nice for
> > top edge. KRunner would be a nice fit as it's also on top, but it's
> > rather useless on touch.
> > 
> > The application launcher is rather disconnected in the default setup
> if
> > we swipe in from left screen. What I personally would prefer if we
> could
> > trigger the application dashboard. Of course we still don't have
> working
> > touch support in the application launchers, so if we go for that we
> need
> > fixing (same applies for alt+tab btw.).
> > 
> > So please comment and propose your own ideas.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Martin


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