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Subject: Re: Selecting a Plasma logo
From: Ken Vermette <vermette () gmail ! com>
Date: 2016-12-07 20:51:39
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I think this is likely the best and most expedient idea. Just list all the
potential logotypes and have everyone score every logo on a scale.
Whichever logo has the highest score becomes the Plasma logo. If there's a
tie the VDG serves as tiebreaker.
If everyone is O.K. with something like Google Forms (for this one-time
selection) I could have something up very quickly... Unless we already have
some very fast-and-easy internal form tool. I know some people have a thing
against Google, but it's the fastest way I can think of, it has
anti-favoritism feature (question shuffling) and we need to just get this
done without making it overcomplicated. We can also require email addresses
(but not require Google accounts) to verify people have only voted one time=
.
Here's my proposal: we get a form up tomorrow, put it on plasma-devel
mailing lists. We set the voting deadline to December 23rd midnight, giving
the vote just over two weeks. That gives us a time to commit the new logo
to Plasma 5.9 before freeze, and for those of us who celebrate the holidays
in December we can announce the new logo as a "Present" on Planet KDE.
Does that sound like a plan?
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin <mgraesslin@kde.or=
g> wrote:
> Am 2016-12-07 18:04, schrieb Marco Martin:
>
>> Hi Jens,
>> Thanks to make this rolling again!
>> and yes, is massively about time to decide something
>>
>> On Wednesday 07 December 2016 13:58:34 Jens Reuterberg wrote:
>>
>>> #1 means that we with a high level of chance will go to the Plasma logo
>>> we
>>> had before this started. There is zero criticism against it that has be=
en
>>> valid except that the developers who didn't like it in the first place
>>> didn't like it. Which is relevant of course.
>>>
>>
>> I would be fine with that logo
>>
>> Unless something is posted here my assumption is that the design decisio=
n
>>> is
>>> up to the KDE Design Group/VDG and we will choose, reply and move on wi=
th
>>> this and our lives.
>>>
>>
>> As the current status goes, for me the best one is Uri's logo (I prefer
>> if is
>> always used monochrome tough)
>>
>
> I think there were a few issues with the selection process. I remember
> that it was very difficult to say which ones were up to discussion (the
> second version of the version provided by foo).
>
> And that made it really hard.
>
> Maybe go back a step and create a questionaire with all the icons and let
> the devs vote on it in a from 1 to 5 scale to figure out which ones are
> liked and which ones not.
>
> Personally I find it important that the developers have a say in what the
> logo is. I think we identify by it and the logo needs to work with us.
>
> Cheers
> Martin
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>I think this is likely the best and most expedient \
idea. Just list all the potential logotypes and have everyone score every logo on a \
scale. Whichever logo has the highest score becomes the Plasma logo. If there's a \
tie the VDG serves as tiebreaker. <br><br>If everyone is O.K. with something like \
Google Forms (for this one-time selection) I could have something up very quickly... \
Unless we already have some very fast-and-easy internal form tool. I know some people \
have a thing against Google, but it's the fastest way I can think of, it has \
anti-favoritism feature (question shuffling) and we need to just get this done \
without making it overcomplicated. We can also require email addresses (but not \
require Google accounts) to verify people have only voted one \
time.<br></div><br></div>Here's my proposal: we get a form up tomorrow, put it on \
plasma-devel mailing lists. We set the voting deadline to December 23rd midnight, \
giving the vote just over two weeks. That gives us a time to commit the new logo to \
Plasma 5.9 before freeze, and for those of us who celebrate the holidays in December \
we can announce the new logo as a "Present" on Planet \
KDE.<br><br></div>Does that sound like a plan?<br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:58 PM, \
Martin Gräßlin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mgraesslin@kde.org" \
target="_blank">mgraesslin@kde.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">Am 2016-12-07 18:04, schrieb Marco Martin:<br> \
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi Jens,<br>
Thanks to make this rolling again!<br>
and yes, is massively about time to decide something<br>
<br>
On Wednesday 07 December 2016 13:58:34 Jens Reuterberg wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> #1 means that we with a high level of chance will go to the \
Plasma logo we<br> had before this started. There is zero criticism against it that \
has been<br> valid except that the developers who didn't like it in the first \
place<br> didn't like it. Which is relevant of course.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I would be fine with that logo<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Unless something is posted here my assumption is that the \
design decision is<br> up to the KDE Design Group/VDG and we will choose, reply and \
move on with<br> this and our lives.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
As the current status goes, for me the best one is Uri's logo (I prefer if is<br>
always used monochrome tough)<br>
</blockquote>
<br></span>
I think there were a few issues with the selection process. I remember that it was \
very difficult to say which ones were up to discussion (the second version of the \
version provided by foo).<br> <br>
And that made it really hard.<br>
<br>
Maybe go back a step and create a questionaire with all the icons and let the devs \
vote on it in a from 1 to 5 scale to figure out which ones are liked and which ones \
not.<br> <br>
Personally I find it important that the developers have a say in what the logo is. I \
think we identify by it and the logo needs to work with us.<br> <br>
Cheers<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Martin<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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