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Subject:    Re: Review Request 126906: Simplified fullscreen blur for Application Dashboard
From:       Martin_Gräßlin <mgraesslin () kde ! org>
Date:       2016-01-28 11:19:29
Message-ID: 20160128111929.17778.47433 () mimi ! kde ! org
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> On Jan. 27, 2016, 6:22 p.m., Thomas Lübking wrote:
> > effects/blur/blur.cpp, line 474
> > <https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126906/diff/1/?file=441789#file441789line474>
> > 
> > Did you try the behavior on a varying scene?
> > 
> > Generating mipmaps isn't exactly cheap and linear interpolation suffers from \
> > artifacts when things below move (I had tried an even smarter trick for general \
> > blurring, looks stunning and is incredibly fast ... as long as you deal with \
> > static contents)
> 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> just tried a youtube video + the blur on my Ivybridge system. Didn't notice any \
> problems. That's of course not a scientific measurement ;-) 
> Thomas Lübking wrote:
> Harsh contrast changes would cause "flicker" - playing a video would likely be more \
> a CPU/GPU overhead (mipmapping) concern.

in the given usage scenario (app dashboard) it's rather unlikely that there are \
contrast changes. After all the set of windows below is supposed to be kind of \
static.


- Martin


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On Jan. 27, 2016, 2:24 p.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote:
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> (Updated Jan. 27, 2016, 2:24 p.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for kwin, Plasma and Eike Hein.
> 
> 
> Repository: kwin
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> [kwineffects] Expose fullScreen property in EffectWindow
> Also copied to Deleted.
> 
> [effects] Add a simplified fullscreen blur
> 
> If a window is fullscreen and wants fullscreen blur behind it, we
> use the blur from logout effect. This is mostly intended for the
> Application Dashboard which requires a fullscreen blur. The generic
> blur effect is not designed for such usage and is rather costly.
> 
> This simplified blur just needs framebuffer blit and midmaps. This
> makes it rather cheap in usage and also doesn't need a cached texture.
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> deleted.h bb87ae9611a5b59a5b37cf5a4cd38e99ed987069 
> deleted.cpp 239ba8fec76ad520728182faf6429be8730ebec1 
> effects/blur/blur.h fd5a020688d0e4397ce18e03aa4f79565418e9c5 
> effects/blur/blur.cpp a360f0301e2983d0fb0bf3effff71f95ac46ff22 
> libkwineffects/kwineffects.h 4350e2b1c86252af43186164b10ad55fa388266e 
> libkwineffects/kwineffects.cpp b767f6671284295d2e81b023ef62b24fcca8929a 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126906/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> 
> File Attachments
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> 
> Dashboard with new algorithm.
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2016/01/27/b6607afa-cf10-4cd8-a490-7b56de4faaec__Spectacle.o12214.png
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Martin Gräßlin
> 
> 


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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On January 27th, 2016, 6:22 p.m. CET, <b>Thomas \
Lübking</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
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href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126906/diff/1/?file=441789#file441789line474" \
style="color: black; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: \
underline;">effects/blur/blur.cpp</a>  <span style="font-weight: normal;">

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bgcolor="#b1ebb0" style="border-left: 1px solid #C0C0C0; border-right: 1px solid \
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width="50%"><pre style="font-size: 8pt; line-height: 140%; margin: 0; ">    <span \
class="n">GLTexture</span> <span class="n">blurTexture</span> <span \
class="o">=</span> <span class="n">GLTexture</span><span class="p">(</span><span \
class="n">GL_RGBA8</span><span class="p">,</span> <span class="n">w</span><span \
class="o">-&gt;</span><span class="n">size</span><span class="p">(),</span> <span \
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  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Did \
you try the behavior on a varying scene?</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Generating mipmaps \
isn't exactly cheap and linear interpolation suffers from artifacts when things below \
move (I had tried an even smarter trick for general blurring, looks stunning and is \
incredibly fast ... as long as you deal with static contents)</p></pre>  \
</blockquote>



 <p>On January 28th, 2016, 9 a.m. CET, <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">just \
tried a youtube video + the blur on my Ivybridge system. Didn't notice any problems. \
That's of course not a scientific measurement ;-)</p></pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On January 28th, 2016, 11:28 a.m. CET, <b>Thomas Lübking</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Harsh \
contrast changes would cause "flicker" - playing a video would likely be more a \
CPU/GPU overhead (mipmapping) concern.</p></pre>  </blockquote>







</blockquote>
<pre style="margin-left: 1em; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; \
white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">in the given usage scenario (app dashboard) it's rather unlikely that there \
are contrast changes. After all the set of windows below is supposed to be kind of \
static.</p></pre> <br />




<p>- Martin</p>


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<p>On January 27th, 2016, 2:24 p.m. CET, Martin Gräßlin wrote:</p>








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<div>Review request for kwin, Plasma and Eike Hein.</div>
<div>By Martin Gräßlin.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Jan. 27, 2016, 2:24 p.m.</i></p>









<div style="margin-top: 1.5em;">
 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
kwin
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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style="border: 1px solid #b8b5a0">  <tr>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">[kwineffects] Expose fullScreen property in \
EffectWindow Also copied to Deleted.</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">[effects] Add a simplified fullscreen blur</p> <p \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">If a window is fullscreen and wants fullscreen blur behind it, we use the \
blur from logout effect. This is mostly intended for the Application Dashboard which \
requires a fullscreen blur. The generic blur effect is not designed for such usage \
and is rather costly.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">This simplified blur just needs \
framebuffer blit and midmaps. This makes it rather cheap in usage and also doesn't \
need a cached texture.</p></pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>deleted.h <span style="color: \
grey">(bb87ae9611a5b59a5b37cf5a4cd38e99ed987069)</span></li>

 <li>deleted.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(239ba8fec76ad520728182faf6429be8730ebec1)</span></li>

 <li>effects/blur/blur.h <span style="color: \
grey">(fd5a020688d0e4397ce18e03aa4f79565418e9c5)</span></li>

 <li>effects/blur/blur.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(a360f0301e2983d0fb0bf3effff71f95ac46ff22)</span></li>

 <li>libkwineffects/kwineffects.h <span style="color: \
grey">(4350e2b1c86252af43186164b10ad55fa388266e)</span></li>

 <li>libkwineffects/kwineffects.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(b767f6671284295d2e81b023ef62b24fcca8929a)</span></li>

</ul>

<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126906/diff/" style="margin-left: \
3em;">View Diff</a></p>



<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">File Attachments \
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 <li><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2016/01/27/b6607afa-cf10-4cd8-a490-7b56de4faaec__Spectacle.o12214.png">Dashboard \
with new algorithm.</a></li>

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