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Subject: Re: Review Request 126515: [DrKonqi] RFC: Support showing a StatusNotifierItem instead of bringing u
From: "Kai Uwe Broulik" <kde () privat ! broulik ! de>
Date: 2015-12-30 0:39:29
Message-ID: 20151230003929.18086.4954 () mimi ! kde ! org
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> On Dez. 29, 2015, 11:56 nachm., Ken Vermette wrote:
> > In regards to the message displayed (as mentioned in your G+ post) how about:
> >
> > "Sorry for the inconvenience. Please report the error to help improve this software."
>
> Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
> I'm quite indifferent on the wording: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/12/30/canadiankonqi.jpg
>
> Btw, perhaps we could give the DrKonqi dialog a slightly cuter look with a sad Konqi in \
> there, or so, similar to our about dialog. The current heart monitor icon we currently have \
> at the right is a bit dated.
You know, like this: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/12/30/konqikonq.jpg except with a less cheerful \
dragon :)
- Kai Uwe
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On Dez. 29, 2015, 9:19 nachm., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Dez. 29, 2015, 9:19 nachm.)
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>
> Review request for KDE Frameworks, Plasma, KDE Usability, and Martin Gräßlin.
>
>
> Repository: plasma-workspace
>
>
> Description
> -------
>
> This adds a new "--passive" option to DrKonqi where it will only show a StatusNotifierItem \
> rather than bringing up the crash dialog right away.
> This can be useful for auto-restarting shell services (like plasmashell, krunner, kded) to \
> improve the perceived quality of the product.
> On Windows RT, for example, the guidelines even explicitly say "rather just dump the user on \
> the home screen than telling him something went wrong, so he can just quickly start the app \
> again instead of being annoyed by an error message". On iOS you also just get dropped on the \
> home screen. Windows desktop shows a "Searching for a solution" dialog which was *the* major \
> annoyance when something crashed, rather than the actual crash.
> Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ZLs-juYKc
>
>
> Diffs
> -----
>
> drkonqi/CMakeLists.txt eaeaad4
> drkonqi/main.cpp 7cbaae7
> drkonqi/statusnotifier.h PRE-CREATION
> drkonqi/statusnotifier.cpp PRE-CREATION
>
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126515/diff/
>
>
> Testing
> -------
>
> I crashed plasmashell, it restarted so fast that you didn't even have a black screen \
> inbetween, just the panel restarting. Afterwards I got a SNI which opened DrKonqi when \
> tapped.
> The SNI disappears after 1 minute because if you didn't bother to look after it by then, you \
> probably forgot what you did to cause the crash anyway :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kai Uwe Broulik
>
>
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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On Dezember 29th, 2015, 11:56 nachm. UTC, <b>Ken Vermette</b> \
wrote:</p> <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; \
white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">In regards to the message \
displayed (as mentioned in your G+ post) how about:</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">"Sorry for the inconvenience. \
Please report the error to help improve this software."</p></pre> </blockquote>
<p>On Dezember 30th, 2015, 12:31 vorm. UTC, <b>Kai Uwe Broulik</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; \
white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I'm quite indifferent on the \
wording: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/12/30/canadiankonqi.jpg</p> <p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Btw, perhaps we \
could give the DrKonqi dialog a slightly cuter look with a sad Konqi in there, or so, similar \
to our about dialog. The current heart monitor icon we currently have at the right is a bit \
dated.</p></pre> </blockquote>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; \
white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">You know, like this: \
http://wstaw.org/m/2015/12/30/konqikonq.jpg except with a less cheerful dragon :)</p></pre> <br \
/>
<p>- Kai Uwe</p>
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<p>On Dezember 29th, 2015, 9:19 nachm. UTC, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for KDE Frameworks, Plasma, KDE Usability, and Martin Gräßlin.</div>
<div>By Kai Uwe Broulik.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Dez. 29, 2015, 9:19 nachm.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
plasma-workspace
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; \
white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">This adds a new \
"--passive" option to DrKonqi where it will only show a StatusNotifierItem rather than bringing \
up the crash dialog right away.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">This can be useful for auto-restarting shell \
services (like plasmashell, krunner, kded) to improve the perceived quality of the product.</p> \
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">On Windows RT, for example, the guidelines even explicitly say "rather just dump the \
user on the home screen than telling him something went wrong, so he can just quickly start the \
app again instead of being annoyed by an error message". On iOS you also just get dropped on \
the home screen. Windows desktop shows a "Searching for a solution" dialog which was <em \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
normal;">the</em> major annoyance when something crashed, rather than the actual crash.</p> <p \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ZLs-juYKc</p></pre> </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; \
white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I crashed \
plasmashell, it restarted so fast that you didn't even have a black screen inbetween, just the \
panel restarting. Afterwards I got a SNI which opened DrKonqi when tapped.</p> <p \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">The SNI disappears after 1 minute because if you didn't bother to look after it by \
then, you probably forgot what you did to cause the crash anyway :)</p></pre> </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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<li>drkonqi/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(eaeaad4)</span></li>
<li>drkonqi/main.cpp <span style="color: grey">(7cbaae7)</span></li>
<li>drkonqi/statusnotifier.h <span style="color: grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>drkonqi/statusnotifier.cpp <span style="color: grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
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<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126515/diff/" style="margin-left: 3em;">View \
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