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Subject: Re: Review Request 126515: [DrKonqi] RFC: Support showing a StatusNotifierItem instead of bringing u
From: "Kai Uwe Broulik" <kde () privat ! broulik ! de>
Date: 2015-12-30 0:39:29
Message-ID: 20151230003929.18086.4954 () mimi ! kde ! org
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> On Dez. 29, 2015, 11:56 nachm., Ken Vermette wrote:
> > In regards to the message displayed (as mentioned in your G+ post) how about:
> >
> > "Sorry for the inconvenience. Please report the error to help improve this \
> > software."
>
> Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
> I'm quite indifferent on the wording: \
> http://wstaw.org/m/2015/12/30/canadiankonqi.jpg
> Btw, perhaps we could give the DrKonqi dialog a slightly cuter look with a sad \
> Konqi in there, or so, similar to our about dialog. The current heart monitor icon \
> we currently have at the right is a bit dated.
You know, like this: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/12/30/konqikonq.jpg except with a less \
cheerful dragon :)
- Kai Uwe
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On Dez. 29, 2015, 9:19 nachm., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Dez. 29, 2015, 9:19 nachm.)
>
>
> Review request for KDE Frameworks, Plasma, KDE Usability, and Martin Gräßlin.
>
>
> Repository: plasma-workspace
>
>
> Description
> -------
>
> This adds a new "--passive" option to DrKonqi where it will only show a \
> StatusNotifierItem rather than bringing up the crash dialog right away.
> This can be useful for auto-restarting shell services (like plasmashell, krunner, \
> kded) to improve the perceived quality of the product.
> On Windows RT, for example, the guidelines even explicitly say "rather just dump \
> the user on the home screen than telling him something went wrong, so he can just \
> quickly start the app again instead of being annoyed by an error message". On iOS \
> you also just get dropped on the home screen. Windows desktop shows a "Searching \
> for a solution" dialog which was *the* major annoyance when something crashed, \
> rather than the actual crash.
> Video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ZLs-juYKc
>
>
> Diffs
> -----
>
> drkonqi/CMakeLists.txt eaeaad4
> drkonqi/main.cpp 7cbaae7
> drkonqi/statusnotifier.h PRE-CREATION
> drkonqi/statusnotifier.cpp PRE-CREATION
>
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126515/diff/
>
>
> Testing
> -------
>
> I crashed plasmashell, it restarted so fast that you didn't even have a black \
> screen inbetween, just the panel restarting. Afterwards I got a SNI which opened \
> DrKonqi when tapped.
> The SNI disappears after 1 minute because if you didn't bother to look after it by \
> then, you probably forgot what you did to cause the crash anyway :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kai Uwe Broulik
>
>
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <p style="margin-top: 0;">On Dezember 29th, 2015, 11:56 nachm. UTC, <b>Ken \
Vermette</b> wrote:</p> <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">In regards to the message displayed (as mentioned in \
your G+ post) how about:</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">"Sorry for the inconvenience. Please \
report the error to help improve this software."</p></pre> </blockquote>
<p>On Dezember 30th, 2015, 12:31 vorm. UTC, <b>Kai Uwe Broulik</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I'm \
quite indifferent on the wording: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/12/30/canadiankonqi.jpg</p> \
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Btw, perhaps we could give the DrKonqi dialog a \
slightly cuter look with a sad Konqi in there, or so, similar to our about dialog. \
The current heart monitor icon we currently have at the right is a bit \
dated.</p></pre> </blockquote>
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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">You \
know, like this: http://wstaw.org/m/2015/12/30/konqikonq.jpg except with a less \
cheerful dragon :)</p></pre> <br />
<p>- Kai Uwe</p>
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<p>On Dezember 29th, 2015, 9:19 nachm. UTC, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for KDE Frameworks, Plasma, KDE Usability, and Martin \
Gräßlin.</div> <div>By Kai Uwe Broulik.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Dez. 29, 2015, 9:19 nachm.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
plasma-workspace
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">This adds a new "--passive" option to DrKonqi where it \
will only show a StatusNotifierItem rather than bringing up the crash dialog right \
away.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">This can be useful for auto-restarting shell services \
(like plasmashell, krunner, kded) to improve the perceived quality of the \
product.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">On Windows RT, for example, the guidelines even \
explicitly say "rather just dump the user on the home screen than telling him \
something went wrong, so he can just quickly start the app again instead of being \
annoyed by an error message". On iOS you also just get dropped on the home screen. \
Windows desktop shows a "Searching for a solution" dialog which was <em \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
normal;">the</em> major annoyance when something crashed, rather than the actual \
crash.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Video here: \
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ZLs-juYKc</p></pre> </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">I crashed plasmashell, it restarted so fast that you \
didn't even have a black screen inbetween, just the panel restarting. Afterwards I \
got a SNI which opened DrKonqi when tapped.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">The SNI disappears \
after 1 minute because if you didn't bother to look after it by then, you probably \
forgot what you did to cause the crash anyway :)</p></pre> </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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<li>drkonqi/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(eaeaad4)</span></li>
<li>drkonqi/main.cpp <span style="color: grey">(7cbaae7)</span></li>
<li>drkonqi/statusnotifier.h <span style="color: grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>drkonqi/statusnotifier.cpp <span style="color: grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/126515/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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