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Subject:    Re: RFC: Put notifications in sidepanel like widget explorer
From:       Martin Klapetek <martin.klapetek () gmail ! com>
Date:       2015-10-20 20:33:21
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Marco Martin <notmart@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday 20 October 2015, Martin Klapetek wrote:
> > Basically the idea is to reinvent the notifications in Plasma a bit
> > and create a kind of notification center.
> >
> > My plan would be to get a VDG design and then work on it for
> > Plasma 5.6.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> I'm not sure, iirc at a sprint earlier this year we talked about something
> like that, but was for all the applets that are right now in the
> systray(plus
> eventually random applets the user wants to stuff here in that sidepanel).
> I have tought about it since then, but never followed up on that since i
> can't
> really figure out how it may work.
> would it be just notifications? would it there be the other applets as
> well?
>

For now, just notifications. Opening it for other applets would make it
/the/
new system tray I fear. Although, that might not be a bad idea either, but
for now, only notifications.


> in the case of notifications, when there is none or just a couple, would
> there
> be a desolate field of emptyness in the sidebar?


Yeah, probably. Which wouldn't have to be a bad thing though.


> (and when the panel is at the
> bottom, would they be at the top having a long travel distance? or at the
> bottom looking strange?and when the panel is in a different edge
> altogether?
> note that on the mac all those questions are far easier, as the panel is
> always fixed at the top)
>

I would put it from bottom-to-top when panel is at the bottom edge
and top-to-bottom ordering in top panel setups. Just like the floating
popups work now. In other panel cases, dunno, we'd have to settle
on a default.


> It's for sure an interesting idea to be explored, but has a lot of
> questions
> to be answeredboth on the ui and technical sides
>

Absolutely, just the discussion needs to be started at some point :)
So first I'd like to collect opinions and thoughts and only then I'd
proceed to request mockups and stuff.

Cheers
-- 
Martin Klapetek | KDE Developer

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<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 \
at 4:16 PM, Marco Martin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:notmart@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">notmart@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Tuesday 20 October 2015, Martin Klapetek \
wrote:<br> &gt; Basically the idea is to reinvent the notifications in Plasma a \
bit<br> &gt; and create a kind of notification center.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My plan would be to get a VDG design and then work on it for<br>
&gt; Plasma 5.6.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thoughts?<br>
<br>
</span>I&#39;m not sure, iirc at a sprint earlier this year we talked about \
something<br> like that, but was for all the applets that are right now in the \
systray(plus<br> eventually random applets the user wants to stuff here in that \
sidepanel).<br> I have tought about it since then, but never followed up on that \
since i can&#39;t<br> really figure out how it may work.<br>
would it be just notifications? would it there be the other applets as \
well?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>For now, just notifications. Opening it for \
other applets would make it /the/</div><div>new system tray I fear. Although, that \
might not be a bad idea either, but</div><div>for now, only notifications.</div><div> \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> in the case of notifications, when there is none or just a \
couple, would there<br> be a desolate field of emptyness in the \
sidebar?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah, probably. Which wouldn&#39;t have to \
be a bad thing though.</div><div>  </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> (and when the \
panel is at the<br> bottom, would they be at the top having a long travel distance? \
or at the<br> bottom looking strange?and when the panel is in a different edge \
altogether?<br> note that on the mac all those questions are far easier, as the panel \
is<br> always fixed at the top)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would put it \
from bottom-to-top when panel is at the bottom edge</div><div>and top-to-bottom \
ordering in top panel setups. Just like the floating</div><div>popups work now. In \
other panel cases, dunno, we&#39;d have to settle</div><div>on a default.</div><div>  \
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> It&#39;s for sure an interesting idea to be explored, but \
has a lot of questions<br> to be answeredboth on the ui and technical \
sides<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Absolutely, just the discussion needs to be \
started at some point :)</div><div>So first I&#39;d like to collect opinions and \
thoughts and only then I&#39;d</div><div>proceed to request mockups and \
stuff.</div></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>-- <br><div \
class="gmail_signature"><div><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">Martin Klapetek | \
KDE  Developer</span></div></div> </div></div>


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