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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: Review Request 124296: Update autostart kcm docbook to kf5
From:       Burkhard_Lück <lueck () hube-lueck ! de>
Date:       2015-07-27 17:12:37
Message-ID: 20150727171237.21960.46250 () mimi ! kde ! org
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(Updated Juli 27, 2015, 5:12 nachm.)


Review request for Documentation, Plasma and Jeremy Whiting.


Changes
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Fix issues spotted by Luigi, use &plasma; entity


Repository: plasma-desktop


Description
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I found a lot of usefull infos for the update in this blog post, thanks a lot Jeremy
http://jpwhiting.blogspot.de/2014/11/autostart-in-plasma-5.html

Some questions:

1)
.config/plaswa-workspace/env -> pre kde startup (immediately after login)
.config/plaswa-workspace/shutdown -> shutdown
.config/autostart/ startup only for programs (Desktop files) 
using/launching scripts after kde startup is not possible?
how to enable/disable a script? not possible afaik
Is this correct?
How to deal with the issue that it is no longer possible to launch a script at \
startup? Any fix in sight or should I add a note about that missing feature to the \
docbook?

2) 
migration from kde4:
Copy Desktop files from $HOME/.kde/Autostart to $HOME/.config/autostart/
Copy Script files to from $HOME/.kde/Autostart to 
$HOME/.config/plasma-workspace/env (pre kde startup) 
or $HOME/.config/plasma-workspace/shutdown (shutdown scripts)
Should I add a note about migration from kde4 to the docbook?

3)
Use Plasma instead of &kde;?
GUI catalog kcm_autostart still has several messages with KDE: 
"Autostart only in KDE" "KDE Autostart Manager" "KDE Autostart Manager Control Panel \
Module" "Pre-KDE startup" I'd prefer to use Plasma instead of &kde; in the docbook, \
but then the GUI has to be changed as well

4) 
Disabling Autostart Files Provided By Your Distribution -> \
http://www.sharpley.org.uk/node/8 Add a note about this to the docbook?

5)
KDE Applications handling autostart on their own e.g.
KAlarm enable/disable autostart in settings dialog
Konversation/Kopete in systemtray, you have to use File->Quit to prevent autostart on \
next login Add a note about this to the docbook?

6)
Background Services - Startup Services:
This shows all KDE services that can be loaded on KDE startup. Checked services will \
be invoked on next startup. Add a note about this or link to the relevant kcm \
docbook?

7)
Desktop Session - another way to autostart applications
Add a note about this or link to the relevant kcm docbook?


Diffs (updated)
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  doc/kcontrol/autostart/index.docbook c16f8a3 

Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124296/diff/


Testing
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builds


Thanks,

Burkhard Lück


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<div>Review request for Documentation, Plasma and Jeremy Whiting.</div>
<div>By Burkhard Lück.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Juli 27, 2015, 5:12 nachm.</i></p>



<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Changes</h1>
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-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">Fix issues spotted by Luigi, use &amp;plasma; entity</pre>  </td>
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 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
plasma-desktop
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">I found a lot of usefull infos for the update in this \
blog post, thanks a lot Jeremy \
http://jpwhiting.blogspot.de/2014/11/autostart-in-plasma-5.html</p> <p \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">Some questions:</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
                0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">1)
.config/plaswa-workspace/env -&gt; pre kde startup (immediately after login)
.config/plaswa-workspace/shutdown -&gt; shutdown
.config/autostart/ startup only for programs (Desktop files) 
using/launching scripts after kde startup is not possible?
how to enable/disable a script? not possible afaik
Is this correct?
How to deal with the issue that it is no longer possible to launch a script at \
startup? Any fix in sight or should I add a note about that missing feature to the \
docbook?</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">2)  migration from kde4:
Copy Desktop files from $HOME/.kde/Autostart to $HOME/.config/autostart/
Copy Script files to from $HOME/.kde/Autostart to 
$HOME/.config/plasma-workspace/env (pre kde startup) 
or $HOME/.config/plasma-workspace/shutdown (shutdown scripts)
Should I add a note about migration from kde4 to the docbook?</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">3) Use Plasma instead of &amp;kde;?
GUI catalog kcm_autostart still has several messages with KDE: 
"Autostart only in KDE" "KDE Autostart Manager" "KDE Autostart Manager Control Panel \
Module" "Pre-KDE startup" I'd prefer to use Plasma instead of &amp;kde; in the \
docbook, but then the GUI has to be changed as well</p> <p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">4)  \
Disabling Autostart Files Provided By Your Distribution -&gt; \
http://www.sharpley.org.uk/node/8 Add a note about this to the docbook?</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">5) KDE Applications handling autostart on their own \
e.g. KAlarm enable/disable autostart in settings dialog
Konversation/Kopete in systemtray, you have to use File-&gt;Quit to prevent autostart \
on next login Add a note about this to the docbook?</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">6) Background Services - Startup Services:
This shows all KDE services that can be loaded on KDE startup. Checked services will \
be invoked on next startup. Add a note about this or link to the relevant kcm \
docbook?</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">7) Desktop Session - another way to autostart \
applications Add a note about this or link to the relevant kcm docbook?</p></pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">builds</p></pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> \
(updated)</h1> <ul style="margin-left: 3em; padding-left: 0;">

 <li>doc/kcontrol/autostart/index.docbook <span style="color: \
grey">(c16f8a3)</span></li>

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<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124296/diff/" style="margin-left: \
3em;">View Diff</a></p>






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