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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: Review Request 122679: Show Desktop feature: refurbished
From:       Thomas_Lübking <thomas.luebking () gmail ! com>
Date:       2015-03-30 21:13:24
Message-ID: 20150330211324.26405.78764 () mimi ! kde ! org
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> On März 30, 2015, 7:12 nachm., Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > Was adding the usability group more meant as a heads-up to inform us that things \
> > are happening on this front, or are you expecting an actual usability review? In \
> > the latter case, we'd need some kind of visualization or at least detailed \
> > description of what is happening on the UI side, since we can't read code all \
> > that well ;)

The main (only) question for the usability team right now is "what do we do with \
panels": Should the hide or show when showing the desktop (having in mind this to be \
a dashboard "replacement")

Related question: what about windows that are marked to keep above?

Hybrids (w/ eg. Kais and kdeuser56's comments in mind) are possible as well, ie. we \
could only show "special" docks/panels/windows (which however need to indicate \
relation by marking themselves transient for the desktop or "keepabove" - techincal \
detail, though ;-)

Also see my very first comment on this.

---

Aside this, you may want to comment on the effects, but they're scripts and can \
easily be adjusted and tried w/o compilation once the usability / visual design folks \
have the beta installed or so.


- Thomas


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On März 30, 2015, 9:06 nachm., Thomas Lübking wrote:
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> (Updated März 30, 2015, 9:06 nachm.)
> 
> 
> Review request for kwin, Plasma, KDE Usability, Martin Gräßlin, and Marco Martin.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 344083
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344083
> 
> 
> Repository: kwin
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> commit b4e3a736c3643179b5b4ea73f7706918a03483fe
> Author: Thomas Lübking
> Date:   Mon Mar 30 11:38:54 2015 +0200
> 
> add eyeOnScreen effect
> 
> commit 4aaeeda8fbebded0e915b39a54092c586de179ce
> Author: Thomas Lübking
> Date:   Mon Mar 30 11:38:38 2015 +0200
> 
> support gaussian curve and animationEnded signal in ScriptedEffect
> 
> 
> commit a1e7f1a2ccefffd42e360bbaae48ecdfaa5b1ff4                                     \
>                 
> Author: Thomas Lübking                                                             \
>                 
> Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:15:57 2015 +0100                                              \
>  
> Add effect to move windows to corners on showing the desktop                        \
>  commit d92c46e96fe9fb13403b859c5e334b618d45d268                                    \
>                 
> Author: Thomas Lübking                                                             \
>                 
> Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:15:22 2015 +0100                                              \
>  
> Remove AnimationData wrapper around metadata. Allow to set metadata directly in \
> animation objects                                                                   \
>  commit ed38cf37b26aa15d77c5b73734581055be234233                                    \
>                 
> Author: Thomas Lübking                                                             \
>                 
> Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:13:41 2015 +0100                                              \
>  
> make window elevation scriptable                                                    \
>  commit c297fd5c55ba862151265e4b8b65b5ffe6048a8d                                    \
>                 
> Author: Thomas Lübking                                                             \
>                 
> Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:12:21 2015 +0100                                              \
>  
> forward showingDesktop signal to effects                                            \
>  commit 570a92331f3691c1fb2affa4f853c75d6062f7e3                                    \
>                 
> Author: Thomas Lübking                                                             \
>                 
> Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:08:32 2015 +0100                                              \
>  
> emit signal when showingDesktop changes   
> 
> 
> commit a1b80b4e310b2c75b4d9811af1d23f699bc658b5
> Author: Thomas Lübking
> Date:   Sun Feb 22 16:41:45 2015 +0100
> 
> add "MinimizeAll" script
> 
> to compensate withdrawn core feature (which
> though has been hidden so far)
> 
> commit 983efb916e282d2263b4abcc92f714c06b3bfcc1
> Author: Thomas Lübking
> Date:   Wed Feb 18 02:09:00 2015 +0100
> 
> break showingDesktop w/ tabbox/PW/DG
> 
> This is now crucial, because while before (the minimized) windows were \
> conditionally shown, but are now always behind the desktop. Also, it makes the \
> tabbox more consistent. 
> commit ff531c8e2adc407da00bef88f18d03e3829b25fa
> Author: Thomas Lübking
> Date:   Wed Feb 18 01:37:45 2015 +0100
> 
> implement showingDesktop by raising the desktop window
> 
> commit 190a0cc022d9935d658a6218d0b3caa79b038563
> Author: Thomas Lübking
> Date:   Wed Feb 18 00:09:46 2015 +0100
> 
> remove secret showDesktopIsMinimizeAll feature
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> client.h 6b947fe 
> client.cpp b6af2fa 
> effects.h ae71d61 
> effects.cpp 20a8773 
> effects/CMakeLists.txt 98a9349 
> effects/badbadwindows/CMakeLists.txt PRE-CREATION 
> effects/badbadwindows/package/CMakeLists.txt PRE-CREATION 
> effects/badbadwindows/package/contents/code/main.js PRE-CREATION 
> effects/badbadwindows/package/metadata.desktop PRE-CREATION 
> effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.cpp 97cb2a3 
> effects/eyeonscreen/CMakeLists.txt PRE-CREATION 
> effects/eyeonscreen/package/CMakeLists.txt PRE-CREATION 
> effects/eyeonscreen/package/contents/code/main.js PRE-CREATION 
> effects/eyeonscreen/package/metadata.desktop PRE-CREATION 
> effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.cpp 7a62ec0 
> kwin.kcfg 80ca365 
> layers.cpp ae08207 
> libkwineffects/kwineffects.h b77e461 
> manage.cpp 8b1a2ee 
> options.h 67e5868 
> options.cpp cdaa851 
> scripting/scriptedeffect.h 39af241 
> scripting/scriptedeffect.cpp ba646f6 
> scripts/CMakeLists.txt 34dedb7 
> scripts/minimizeall/contents/code/main.js PRE-CREATION 
> scripts/minimizeall/metadata.desktop PRE-CREATION 
> tabbox/tabbox.cpp 4a00e4b 
> workspace.h 16fa351 
> workspace.cpp f9c1ab1 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122679/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> * The script (though mostly in KWin4, trouble w/ ksycoca5...)
> * Obviously the supersecret key is now dead ;-)
> * Been playing around with alternate desktop showing.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Thomas Lübking
> 
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On März 30th, 2015, 7:12 nachm. UTC, <b>Thomas \
Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Was adding the usability group more meant as a \
heads-up to inform us that things are happening on this front, or are you expecting \
an actual usability review? In the latter case, we'd need some kind of visualization \
or at least detailed description of what is happening on the UI side, since we can't \
read code all that well ;)</p></pre>  </blockquote>







</blockquote>

<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">The \
main (only) question for the usability team right now is "what do we do with panels": \
Should the hide or show when showing the desktop (having in mind this to be a \
dashboard "replacement")</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Related question: what about windows \
that are marked to keep above?</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Hybrids (w/ eg. Kais \
and kdeuser56's comments in mind) are possible as well, ie. we could only show \
"special" docks/panels/windows (which however need to indicate relation by marking \
themselves transient for the desktop or "keepabove" - techincal detail, though \
;-)</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Also see my very first comment on this.</p> <hr \
style="text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;padding: 0;white-space: normal;border: 1px \
solid #ddd;line-height: inherit;" /> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Aside this, you may \
want to comment on the effects, but they're scripts and can easily be adjusted and \
tried w/o compilation once the usability / visual design folks have the beta \
installed or so.</p></pre> <br />










<p>- Thomas</p>


<br />
<p>On März 30th, 2015, 9:06 nachm. UTC, Thomas Lübking wrote:</p>








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<div>Review request for kwin, Plasma, KDE Usability, Martin Gräßlin, and Marco \
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<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated März 30, 2015, 9:06 nachm.</i></p>







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 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Bugs: </b>


 <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=344083">344083</a>


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 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
kwin
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit \
                b4e3a736c3643179b5b4ea73f7706918a03483fe
Author: Thomas Lübking
Date:   Mon Mar 30 11:38:54 2015 +0200</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">add eyeOnScreen effect </pre></div>
</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit \
                4aaeeda8fbebded0e915b39a54092c586de179ce
Author: Thomas Lübking
Date:   Mon Mar 30 11:38:38 2015 +0200</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">support gaussian curve and animationEnded \
signal in ScriptedEffect </pre></div>
</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit a1e7f1a2ccefffd42e360bbaae48ecdfaa5b1ff4        \
<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: normal;" />
Author: Thomas Lübking                                                               \
<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: normal;" />
Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:15:57 2015 +0100                                                \
</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">Add effect to move windows to corners on \
showing the desktop </pre></div>
</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit d92c46e96fe9fb13403b859c5e334b618d45d268        \
<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: normal;" />
Author: Thomas Lübking                                                               \
<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: normal;" />
Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:15:22 2015 +0100                                                \
</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">Remove AnimationData wrapper around metadata. \
Allow to set metadata directly in animation objects </pre></div>
</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit ed38cf37b26aa15d77c5b73734581055be234233        \
<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: normal;" />
Author: Thomas Lübking                                                               \
<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: normal;" />
Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:13:41 2015 +0100                                                \
</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">make window elevation scriptable </pre></div>
</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit c297fd5c55ba862151265e4b8b65b5ffe6048a8d        \
<br style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: normal;" />
Author: Thomas Lübking                                                               \
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Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:12:21 2015 +0100                                                \
</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">forward showingDesktop signal to effects \
</pre></div> </p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit 570a92331f3691c1fb2affa4f853c75d6062f7e3        \
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Author: Thomas Lübking                                                               \
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Date:   Sun Mar 29 00:08:32 2015 +0100                                                \
</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">emit signal when showingDesktop changes \
</pre></div> </p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit \
                a1b80b4e310b2c75b4d9811af1d23f699bc658b5
Author: Thomas Lübking
Date:   Sun Feb 22 16:41:45 2015 +0100</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">add &quot;MinimizeAll&quot; script

to compensate withdrawn core feature (which
though has been hidden so far)
</pre></div>
</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit \
                983efb916e282d2263b4abcc92f714c06b3bfcc1
Author: Thomas Lübking
Date:   Wed Feb 18 02:09:00 2015 +0100</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">break showingDesktop w/ tabbox/PW/DG \
</pre></div> </p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">This is now crucial, because while before (the \
minimized) windows were conditionally shown, but are now always behind the desktop. \
Also, it makes the tabbox more consistent.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit \
                ff531c8e2adc407da00bef88f18d03e3829b25fa
Author: Thomas Lübking
Date:   Wed Feb 18 01:37:45 2015 +0100</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">implement showingDesktop by raising the \
desktop window </pre></div>
</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
                inherit;white-space: inherit;">commit \
                190a0cc022d9935d658a6218d0b3caa79b038563
Author: Thomas Lübking
Date:   Wed Feb 18 00:09:46 2015 +0100</p>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;"><div class="codehilite" style="background: \
#f8f8f8"><pre style="line-height: 125%">remove secret showDesktopIsMinimizeAll \
feature </pre></div>
</p></pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
<table width="100%" bgcolor="#ffffff" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="10" style="border: \
1px solid #b8b5a0">  <tr>
  <td>
   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><ul style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0 0 0 \
1em;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;"> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">The script (though \
mostly in KWin4, trouble w/ ksycoca5...)</li> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">Obviously the \
supersecret key is now dead ;-)</li> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">Been playing around with \
alternate desktop showing.</li> </ul></pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
<ul style="margin-left: 3em; padding-left: 0;">

 <li>client.h <span style="color: grey">(6b947fe)</span></li>

 <li>client.cpp <span style="color: grey">(b6af2fa)</span></li>

 <li>effects.h <span style="color: grey">(ae71d61)</span></li>

 <li>effects.cpp <span style="color: grey">(20a8773)</span></li>

 <li>effects/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(98a9349)</span></li>

 <li>effects/badbadwindows/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>effects/badbadwindows/package/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>effects/badbadwindows/package/contents/code/main.js <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>effects/badbadwindows/package/metadata.desktop <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>effects/desktopgrid/desktopgrid.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(97cb2a3)</span></li>

 <li>effects/eyeonscreen/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>effects/eyeonscreen/package/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>effects/eyeonscreen/package/contents/code/main.js <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>effects/eyeonscreen/package/metadata.desktop <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>effects/presentwindows/presentwindows.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(7a62ec0)</span></li>

 <li>kwin.kcfg <span style="color: grey">(80ca365)</span></li>

 <li>layers.cpp <span style="color: grey">(ae08207)</span></li>

 <li>libkwineffects/kwineffects.h <span style="color: grey">(b77e461)</span></li>

 <li>manage.cpp <span style="color: grey">(8b1a2ee)</span></li>

 <li>options.h <span style="color: grey">(67e5868)</span></li>

 <li>options.cpp <span style="color: grey">(cdaa851)</span></li>

 <li>scripting/scriptedeffect.h <span style="color: grey">(39af241)</span></li>

 <li>scripting/scriptedeffect.cpp <span style="color: grey">(ba646f6)</span></li>

 <li>scripts/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(34dedb7)</span></li>

 <li>scripts/minimizeall/contents/code/main.js <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>scripts/minimizeall/metadata.desktop <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>

 <li>tabbox/tabbox.cpp <span style="color: grey">(4a00e4b)</span></li>

 <li>workspace.h <span style="color: grey">(16fa351)</span></li>

 <li>workspace.cpp <span style="color: grey">(f9c1ab1)</span></li>

</ul>

<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122679/diff/" style="margin-left: \
3em;">View Diff</a></p>






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