From kde-panel-devel  Tue Nov 25 12:59:09 2014
From: Evgeniy Alekseev <darkarcanis () mail ! ru>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:59:09 +0000
To: kde-panel-devel
Subject: Re: Some issues with porting KDE4 plasmoid to Plasma5
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At Tuesday 25 November 2014 10:23:37 Marco Martin wrote:
> On Sunday 16 November 2014, Evgeniy Alekseev wrote:
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > Some time ago I've started a porting of my plasmoids and dataengine=
s to
> > the
> > newest Plasma and found some problems with it. I've ported a DataEn=
gine
> > w\o
> > any problem, but I have issues about a Plasmoid. I've read API refe=
rence
> > and look at examples from plasma-next and didn't find solutions.
> >=20
> > First of all I want say that I don't plan to use QML/JS now and pla=
n to
> > develop of my plasmoids in pure C++. Firstly it is related to other=

> > project
>=20
> in Plasma5 pure C++ plasmoids are not possible anymore, the c++ api w=
as for
> QGraphicsView (since plasma was based on top of it) plasma5 is based =
on top
> of scene graph, so the only way to write an UI is trough QML.
> You can still use C++ in a dataengine or a private QML import.
>=20
> > parts which is in C++/Qt and I don't want to use additional languag=
es w\o
> > any special necessity. Also as far as I understand the core plasmoi=
d part
> > (on which I have issue too) still shoul be written in C++. Also I t=
ry to
> > avoid using deprecated functions.
> >=20
> > My questions are:
> >=20
> > 1. Is there any alternative to Plasma::PopupApplet? If there is not=
, is
> > there a plan to implement it?
>=20
> all applets are popupapplets now.
> see
> http://notmart.org/blog/2014/02/making-plasmoids-qml-api-better/
>=20
> especially the section "Compact and full representations"
>=20
> > 2. Is there a possibility to paint complex UI w\o using QML (in C++=
 code)?
> > For example, I didn't find old Applet::setLayout() and
> > PopupApplet::setWidget() methods.
>=20
> no, only QML is allowed, and subclassing Applet doesn't really work a=
nymore.
> If you have a complex QWidget ui in theory you could still have it by=

> implementing it in a QML import, then making ti show from a slot invo=
ked by
> qml.
>=20
> > 3. How can I connect DataEngine to my Plasmoid? The old method whic=
h I
> > used
> > was dataEnigne(), some new applets use this method too, but it does=
n't
> > exist in the newest Plasma headers. Some new widgets such as nm-app=
let use
> > Plasma::DataEngineManager::self()->engine() constuction, but
> > Plasma::DataEngineManager class doesn't exist in the Plasma too =3D=
(
>=20
> see the QML bindings:
> https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma2/QML2/API#Data_=
Engines

Thank you for the answer and the links!=20

Seems all my questions are QML porting retaled, so I'll look on it and =
hope=20
will port own KDE stuff successfully =3D) Thank you again.
=2D-=20
Sincerely yours,
Evgeniy Alekseev

email: darkarcanis@mail.ru
ICQ: 407-398-235
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