From kde-panel-devel Tue Nov 26 13:23:50 2013 From: Martin Graesslin Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 13:23:50 +0000 To: kde-panel-devel Subject: Re: No co-installability of plasma 1 and 2 Message-Id: <4215204.8if48AQvKS () martin-thinkpad> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-panel-devel&m=138547208819635 On Tuesday 26 November 2013 12:23:18 Maximiliano Curia wrote: > In article <25673324.XNmJUoyzAe@martin-desktop> you wrote: > > in todays hangout Alex asked whether kwin binary is going to be renamed to > > kwin5 to make it possible to co-install plasma 1 and plasma 2. > > > > My opinion of that is, that we don't need to have things co-installable. > > After all kde-workspace doesn't provide libraries where it is useful to > > have them co-installable. It's applications. > > What do you mean kde-workspace doesn't provide useful libraries? There are a > number of third party applications that depend on them. according to Debian package information we have the following libraries which non-kde-workspace packages depend on: * libkdecoration: useless as it requires KWin (Compiz case is no longer supported since 4.11) * libkephal: got deleted yesterday * libkscreensaver5: either already deleted or should be deleted * libksignalplotter4: no idea what it is, if useful should go into a framework * libkworkspace4abi2: no idea why external packages use it. The frameworks 5 version doesn't look like it has anything of interest for external applications - Debian name indicates that it's a bad idea to use it * libprocessui4a: probably should go into a framework. It's strange that kdevelop depends on kde-workspace, isn't it ;-) * libtaskmanager4abi3: the name of the library as adjusted by Debian should indicate why it's a bad idea to use it outside kde-workspace. Only used inside task applets, that should become a non-issue in Plasma 2 * libweather-ion6: same as taskmanager There are a few more libraries, but all of them are either clearly "plasma" (libplasmaclock) or only used inside kde-workspace module > > Anybody who disagrees? Your arguments please :-) > > I think that this should be discussed in the packagers list, which will help > to sync our points of views among different distributions. I can take it there, but only if packagers are willing to do the work ;-) I took it here to discuss whether we as the developers think that it is worth the effort to provide plasma 1 and 2 at the same time. I think we have agreement that co-installable plasma versions is not considered a valid use- case by the developers. If distros think different, then we need help there. That said: I would prefer that if at all the plasma 1 version gets adjusted. I don't want to type the rest of my life kwin5 and would prefer to still have it as kwin. So if co-installable the existing version should be called kwin4. Same for all the libraries. Cheers Martin _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel