On Saturday 04 May 2013 22:34:04 Kevin Kofler wrote:
> On Friday 03 May 2013 at 17:04:44, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> > @Kevin: I am only remotely following this issue, but as PackageKit
> > developer, I would of course like to see our project in Plasma
> > Workspaces as soon as possible. But I don't know the exact issues
> > here. Also, having KSecrets merged would be a nice goal too. (The
> > SecretService API is very stable, and has the potential to become a
> > new de-facto XDG standard soon)
> 
> The issues are the same in both cases: They're kdelibs features and kdelibs
> does not accept any features. By the time the first release of the Plasma
> Workspaces based on KF5 is planned, kdelibs will have been feature-frozen
> for THREE YEARS!!! (And I'm not even speaking of applications there!)
@Kevin: a small tip. People might consider your arguments as valid if you 
would calm down a little bit in your writing. I cannot consider arguments of 
people as serious if they scream, neither in spoken communication nor in 
written communication.

As I already wrote in my last mail to this thread: yes everybody knows your 
opinion of how kdelibs freeze should be handled. Repeating it in every single 
thread which might even be slightly related to the freeze, won't change 
anything. All the arguments you bring up were valid or not two years ago and 
that hasn't change. Don't expect that people just change their mind because 
Kevin just pointed out that it will be a freeze of three years in the end.

It would be really awesome if you could switch your passion on that topic in 
constructive work and help making kde-framworks rock so that the freeze is not 
that long. I don't see why one wouldn't want to start integrating new features 
right now.

Cheers
Martin
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