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Subject:    Re: Review Request 104281: Drop Decorations B2, Laptop and Plastik
From:       Martin_Gräßlin <mgraesslin () kde ! org>
Date:       2013-02-12 21:14:04
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> On Feb. 7, 2013, 10:25 p.m., Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > I see this has a ship it but marked as uncommited. Was it commited and you forgot \
> > to close the request or is still uncommited?
> 
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> plastik is gone, but b2 and laptop are still there.
> 
> Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> Is anyone planning to take care of that removal? Martin? Thomas?
> 
> Thomas Lübking wrote:
> Regarding the bug reports about "plastik became slow" i'd say such movement (at \
> least for Laptop) is only possible along the introduction of a maintained legacy \
> decoration. I sent a round an RFC reg. a deco for low (network) overhead and \
> maximum usability (so we've a "failsafe" decoration for ppl. with bad eys or weird \
> network setups with the WM remote) but got no comment on that (needs input from \
> a11y and HIG and possibly a veto from the oxygen team) 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> As Thomas wrote: it's blocked by waiting for a (maintained) legacy decoration. The \
> decorations need to go (B2 is intercepting XEvents, Laptop is just broken), but \
> they are currently our only chance to offer something useable for remote users (not \
> that I would say it's a valid use case in 2013). 
> Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> i don't know how long ago the RFC for this replacement deco went out, so perhaps \
> this is not the case, but ... -> if you are not getting feedback from a11y/HIG, \
> please don't let that hold up such changes. it's best to get that feedback, but if \
> there is simply no feedback after a reasonable amount of time and a couple tries (2 \
> times in 6 months is pretty forgiving, imho) then my vote would be to simply push \
> forward and do your best. 
> Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> I really don't want to break the last bit of remote setups. The users are already \
> angry enough with us for removing the drawbound while moving. 
> So the decorations have to stay till there is a decoration for remote setups, which \
> obviously needs someone to write it. 
> Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> So maybe discard the review request for now?

given that it wouldn't apply anyway - yeah.


- Martin


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On March 29, 2012, 11:27 a.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote:
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> (Updated March 29, 2012, 11:27 a.m.)
> 
> 
> Review request for kwin and Plasma.
> 
> 
> Description
> -------
> 
> As discussed on mailinglist: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kwin&m=133136239707091&w=2
> 
> 
> Diffs
> -----
> 
> kwin/clients/CMakeLists.txt 6019a9e 
> kwin/clients/b2/CMakeLists.txt 9295cbe 
> kwin/clients/b2/b2.desktop 2846e39 
> kwin/clients/b2/b2client.h c9e9b57 
> kwin/clients/b2/b2client.cpp 6b52996 
> kwin/clients/b2/bitmaps.h 00c4552 
> kwin/clients/b2/config/CMakeLists.txt 1aaf8da 
> kwin/clients/b2/config/config.h c5bc33c 
> kwin/clients/b2/config/config.cpp fc9c7b9 
> kwin/clients/laptop/CMakeLists.txt 1f4d600 
> kwin/clients/laptop/laptop.desktop ccc9d54 
> kwin/clients/laptop/laptopclient.h 4f1196d 
> kwin/clients/laptop/laptopclient.cpp 52efcd1 
> kwin/clients/plastik/CMakeLists.txt fce0829 
> kwin/clients/plastik/config/CMakeLists.txt e48955d 
> kwin/clients/plastik/config/config.h b037efe 
> kwin/clients/plastik/config/config.cpp a4ddfe0 
> kwin/clients/plastik/config/configdialog.ui fe9f53a 
> kwin/clients/plastik/plastik.h ae7a46e 
> kwin/clients/plastik/plastik.cpp ff9825f 
> kwin/clients/plastik/plastik.desktop 30550c6 
> kwin/clients/plastik/plastikbutton.h 395f628 
> kwin/clients/plastik/plastikbutton.cpp db29d76 
> kwin/clients/plastik/plastikclient.h 4c5b0d9 
> kwin/clients/plastik/plastikclient.cpp 58f8324 
> 
> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104281/diff/
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> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> it compiles
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Martin Gräßlin
> 
> 


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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On February 7th, 2013, 10:25 p.m. CET, <b>Albert \
Astals Cid</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px \
solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">I see this has a ship it but marked as uncommited. Was it commited and \
you forgot to close the request or is still uncommited?</pre>  </blockquote>




 <p>On February 8th, 2013, 5:42 p.m. CET, <b>Aaron J. Seigo</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">plastik is gone, but b2 \
and laptop are still there.</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On February 9th, 2013, 5:27 p.m. CET, <b>Albert Astals Cid</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Is anyone planning to \
take care of that removal? Martin? Thomas?</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On February 9th, 2013, 6:43 p.m. CET, <b>Thomas Lübking</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">Regarding the bug \
reports about &quot;plastik became slow&quot; i&#39;d say such movement (at least for \
Laptop) is only possible along the introduction of a maintained legacy decoration. I \
sent a round an RFC reg. a deco for low (network) overhead and maximum usability (so \
we&#39;ve a &quot;failsafe&quot; decoration for ppl. with bad eys or weird network \
setups with the WM remote) but got no comment on that (needs input from a11y and HIG \
and possibly a veto from the oxygen team)</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On February 11th, 2013, 8:22 a.m. CET, <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">As Thomas wrote: \
it&#39;s blocked by waiting for a (maintained) legacy decoration. The decorations \
need to go (B2 is intercepting XEvents, Laptop is just broken), but they are \
currently our only chance to offer something useable for remote users (not that I \
would say it&#39;s a valid use case in 2013).</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On February 12th, 2013, 12:55 p.m. CET, <b>Aaron J. Seigo</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">i don&#39;t know how \
long ago the RFC for this replacement deco went out, so perhaps this is not the case, \
but ... -&gt; if you are not getting feedback from a11y/HIG, please don&#39;t let \
that hold up such changes. it&#39;s best to get that feedback, but if there is simply \
no feedback after a reasonable amount of time and a couple tries (2 times in 6 months \
is pretty forgiving, imho) then my vote would be to simply push forward and do your \
best.</pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On February 12th, 2013, 1 p.m. CET, <b>Martin Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I really don&#39;t want \
to break the last bit of remote setups. The users are already angry enough with us \
for removing the drawbound while moving.

So the decorations have to stay till there is a decoration for remote setups, which \
obviously needs someone to write it. </pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On February 12th, 2013, 10:11 p.m. CET, <b>Albert Astals Cid</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">So maybe discard the \
review request for now?</pre>  </blockquote>








</blockquote>

<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">given that it \
wouldn&#39;t apply anyway - yeah.</pre> <br />










<p>- Martin</p>


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<div>Review request for kwin and Plasma.</div>
<div>By Martin Gräßlin.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated March 29, 2012, 11:27 a.m.</i></p>






<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">As discussed on mailinglist: \
http://lists.kde.org/?l=kwin&amp;m=133136239707091&amp;w=2</pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>kwin/clients/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(6019a9e)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/b2/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(9295cbe)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/b2/b2.desktop <span style="color: grey">(2846e39)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/b2/b2client.h <span style="color: grey">(c9e9b57)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/b2/b2client.cpp <span style="color: grey">(6b52996)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/b2/bitmaps.h <span style="color: grey">(00c4552)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/b2/config/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: \
grey">(1aaf8da)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/b2/config/config.h <span style="color: grey">(c5bc33c)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/b2/config/config.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(fc9c7b9)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/laptop/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: \
grey">(1f4d600)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/laptop/laptop.desktop <span style="color: \
grey">(ccc9d54)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/laptop/laptopclient.h <span style="color: \
grey">(4f1196d)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/laptop/laptopclient.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(52efcd1)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: \
grey">(fce0829)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/config/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: \
grey">(e48955d)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/config/config.h <span style="color: \
grey">(b037efe)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/config/config.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(a4ddfe0)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/config/configdialog.ui <span style="color: \
grey">(fe9f53a)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/plastik.h <span style="color: grey">(ae7a46e)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/plastik.cpp <span style="color: grey">(ff9825f)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/plastik.desktop <span style="color: \
grey">(30550c6)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/plastikbutton.h <span style="color: \
grey">(395f628)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/plastikbutton.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(db29d76)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/plastikclient.h <span style="color: \
grey">(4c5b0d9)</span></li>

 <li>kwin/clients/plastik/plastikclient.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(58f8324)</span></li>

</ul>

<p><a href="http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104281/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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