From kde-panel-devel Fri Mar 16 13:17:33 2012 From: "Aaron J. Seigo" Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:17:33 +0000 To: kde-panel-devel Subject: Re: Review Request: [RFC]: Rename "Configure Window Behavior" to "Configure Window Management" Message-Id: <20120316131733.5462.52915 () vidsolbach ! de> X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-panel-devel&m=133190393030883 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============4647116282251414780==" --===============4647116282251414780== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============5877385172748238855==" --===============5877385172748238855== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > On March 16, 2012, 11:45 a.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > > personally, i'm unsure why this menu entry is even there. imho people s= hould simply go into system settings. this just makes one more place we hav= e to manage which panels and in which order they are shown. is there really= so much benefit to having it in the right click menu? > > = > > now, i say that as someone who uses that menu item fairly often. so for= *me* it has value there as a shortcut, but i'm rarely using it as a *user*= but as a *developer* and watching others use KWin it's not an often used e= ntry either. > > = > > personally, despite my own use of this menu item, i think it's somethin= g best left to system settings. > = > Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin wrote: > A fair enough question. For me as a developer it is a must-have featu= re, though it does not need to be exposed that strongly (e.g. move to advan= ced submenu) or even adding a build option for it. > = > What I am unsure about is how much do we screw over the documentation= teams. A google search on "Configure window behavior" KDE gives > 5000 res= ults with references in books and so on. Search for the German translation = gives another 700 results. It is a feature for advanced users and already q= uite hidden. But I think for providing user support it's quite a useful fea= ture. > i don't agree that providing support is any easier or harder than starting = with "start system settings" (which is more consistent of an approach, but = not as immediate as right clicking on a title bar), but i do agree that the= documentation references are a killer. for that reason i withdraw my propo= sal. - Aaron J. ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104284/#review11460 ----------------------------------------------------------- On March 15, 2012, 11:19 a.m., Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin wrote: > = > ----------------------------------------------------------- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104284/ > ----------------------------------------------------------- > = > (Updated March 15, 2012, 11:19 a.m.) > = > = > Review request for kwin and Plasma. > = > = > Description > ------- > = > Adding Plasma to get general feedback on this idea. > = > The context menu entry to "Configure Window Behavior" opens the > configuration of the window manager and not about the window. > In the past the shown configuration dialog only contained entries > affecting the window behavior but that is no longer true for the > complete KDE 4.x series since Desktop Effects had been added to > the menu. This change in naming reflects the situation and should > help to remove confusion. > = > = > This addresses bug 249486. > http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D249486 > = > = > Diffs > ----- > = > kwin/useractions.cpp dfb6fd4 = > = > Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/104284/diff/ > = > = > Testing > ------- > = > = > Thanks, > = > Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin > = > --===============5877385172748238855== Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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On March 16th, 2012, 11:45 a.m., Aaron J. S= eigo wrote:

personall=
y, i'm unsure why this menu entry is even there. imho people should sim=
ply go into system settings. this just makes one more place we have to mana=
ge which panels and in which order they are shown. is there really so much =
benefit to having it in the right click menu?

now, i say that as someone who uses that menu item fairly often. so for *me=
* it has value there as a shortcut, but i'm rarely using it as a *user*=
 but as a *developer* and watching others use KWin it's not an often us=
ed entry either.

personally, despite my own use of this menu item, i think it's somethin=
g best left to system settings.

On March 16th, 2012, 12:14 p.m., Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin wrote:=

A fair en=
ough question. For me as a developer it is a must-have feature, though it d=
oes not need to be exposed that strongly (e.g. move to advanced submenu) or=
 even adding a build option for it.

What I am unsure about is how much do we screw over the documentation teams=
. A google search on "Configure window behavior" KDE gives > 5=
000 results with references in books and so on. Search for the German trans=
lation gives another 700 results. It is a feature for advanced users and al=
ready quite hidden. But I think for providing user support it's quite a=
 useful feature.
i don't=
 agree that providing support is any easier or harder than starting with &q=
uot;start system settings" (which is more consistent of an approach, b=
ut not as immediate as right clicking on a title bar), but i do agree that =
the documentation references are a killer. for that reason i withdraw my pr=
oposal.

- Aaron J.


On March 15th, 2012, 11:19 a.m., Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin wrote:

Review request for kwin and Plasma.
By Martin Gr=C3=A4=C3=9Flin.

Updated March 15, 2012, 11:19 a.m.

Descripti= on

Adding Plasma to get general feedback on this idea.

The context menu entry to "Configure Window Behavior" opens the
configuration of the window manager and not about the window.
In the past the shown configuration dialog only contained entries
affecting the window behavior but that is no longer true for the
complete KDE 4.x series since Desktop Effects had been added to
the menu. This change in naming reflects the situation and should
help to remove confusion.
Bugs: 249486

Diffs=

  • kwin/useractions.cpp (dfb6fd4)

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