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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: Extenders in libplasma2 (or.. not)
From:       Hans Chen <hanswchen () gmail ! com>
Date:       2011-11-16 14:35:03
Message-ID: CAFfzviB5fArRFmSv0EP5c7=FY589DAn6fn4J5SfrfzTKka8_+g () mail ! gmail ! com
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From a user's POV, I second what Ivan wrote. I still think it was a neat
idea but there were several reasons why I didn't use extenders:

1. Crash-prone. Plasma would often crash when playing around with them (the
Extender section in Plasma HowTo was, hands down, the hardest section to
record due to frequent crashes. This was in <=4.5 though).
2. Discoverability. In the original mockups it looked like the popup "grew
out" of the panel, it had a colorful titlebar and it would detach from the
panel if you clicked/dragged the bar.
3. Implementation. The fact that you had to unlock your widgets to drag
extenders rendered them completely useless to me and probably a lot of
other users. I would've preferred if they could "float" on the desktop, not
affecting other widgets - this would be useful for other widgets as well,
such as Notes, BbalL etc.

OK, enough ranting. :) In short I think very few users know about this
feature, and even fewer would miss it if it was removed.

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 13:43, Sebastian Kügler <sebas@kde.org> wrote:

> On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 16:08:17 Marco Martin wrote:
> > > so ... i'd like to propose that we kill Extender, ExtenderItem and
> > > ExtenderGroup in libplasma2.
> >
> > i say kill it.
> >
> > to me extender is the typical "seemed  a good idea at the time"
>
> My thoughts exactly. :)
>
> +1 for killing them.
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From a user&#39;s POV, I second what Ivan wrote. I still think it was a neat idea but \
there were several reasons why I didn&#39;t use extenders:<br><br>1. Crash-prone. \
Plasma would often crash when playing around with them (the Extender section in \
Plasma HowTo was, hands down, the hardest section to record  due to frequent crashes. \
This was in &lt;=4.5 though).<br>

2. Discoverability. In the original mockups it looked like the popup &quot;grew \
out&quot; of the panel, it had a colorful titlebar and it would detach from the panel \
if you clicked/dragged the bar. <br>3. Implementation. The fact that you had to \
unlock your widgets to drag extenders rendered them completely useless to me and \
probably a lot of other users. I would&#39;ve preferred if they could \
&quot;float&quot; on the desktop, not affecting other widgets - this would be useful \
for other widgets as well, such as Notes, BbalL etc.<br>

<br>OK, enough ranting. :) In short I think very few users know about this feature, \
and even fewer would miss it if it was removed.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On \
Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 13:43, Sebastian Kügler <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:sebas@kde.org">sebas@kde.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 16:08:17 Marco \
Martin wrote:<br> </div><div class="im">&gt; &gt; so ... i&#39;d like to propose that \
we kill Extender, ExtenderItem and<br> &gt; &gt; ExtenderGroup in libplasma2.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; i say kill it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; to me extender is the typical &quot;seemed  a good idea at the time&quot;<br>
<br>
</div>My thoughts exactly. :)<br>
<br>
+1 for killing them.<br>
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sebas<br>
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