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Subject: Re: Creation of the kde-workspace team
From: Nuno Pinheiro <nuno () oxygen-icons ! org>
Date: 2011-10-27 11:18:21
Message-ID: 201110271218.21905.nuno () oxygen-icons ! org
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A Quinta, 27 de Outubro de 2011 12:01:09, você escreveu:
> If you're subcribed to plasma-devel mailing list, you will probably know
> that I have been dumping emails about global changes into this list, the
> last one being the one with subject "Thoughts about statusbar". In that
> thread some people asked why these kind of issues were discussed in
> plasma-devel mailist instead of for example in kde-usability. Well the
> thing is that in my opinion there is no right place to talk about this
> kind of things since some times they are not only about usability, so when
> I have an idea or I think that we should discuss about something that
> invovles the "overall experienice" I send it to plasma-devel since it is
> the mailist where most dekstop involved parties hangout.
>
> My proposal to solve this empty spot, is to create a working group focused
> in the overall experience within the desktop. This group should work much
> more like Plasma Active does, meaning a designer oriented development
> (correct me if I'm wrong).
>
> With KDE morphed into a community of subcommunities we need to create the
> "Desktop" community so we can gather all people interested in the topic and
> work together to continue working in what we do best, offer a unified
> experience across all applications.
>
> The definition of what this workspace team should do or care about is
> something I'd like to do in a separate thread or irc meeting.
>
> As why I'm sending this email to plasma-devel/kwin/oxygen is because those
> are the main 3 teams working and spending thinking time in the desktop so
> it seems to me like a perfect starting point or organizing such thing.
>
> So, do you think that we need such team/working group/subcommunity ? do you
> feel that there is an empty spot as I do ?
Im sure we all agrea with you... in a way those 3 groups have allways worked
toguether.
The only problem right now is that I'm sufering from complete absence of
freetime, part of it coused by the fact that I have a plan in motion to bring
more guys like me into the project....
--
oxygen guy, "I make the pretty pictures"
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this list, the</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
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margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> thing is that in my opinion there is no right place to talk \
about this</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> kind \
of things since some times they are not only about usability, so when</p> <p style=" \
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-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> I have an idea or I \
think that we should discuss about something that</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> invovles the "overall experienice" \
I send it to plasma-devel since it is</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> the mailist where most dekstop involved \
parties hangout.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> My proposal to solve \
this empty spot, is to create a working group focused</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> in the overall experience within the \
desktop. This group should work much</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> more like Plasma Active does, meaning a \
designer oriented development</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> (correct me if I'm wrong).</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> With KDE morphed into a community of \
subcommunities we need to create the</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> "Desktop" community so we can \
gather all people interested in the topic and</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> work together to continue working in what we \
do best, offer a unified</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> experience across all applications.</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> The definition of what \
this workspace team should do or care about is</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> something I'd like to do in a separate \
thread or irc meeting.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">> As why I'm sending this email to plasma-devel/kwin/oxygen is \
because those</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> are \
the main 3 teams working and spending thinking time in the desktop so</p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> it seems to me like a \
perfect starting point or organizing such thing.</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> </p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> So, do you think that we need such \
team/working group/subcommunity ? do you</p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">> feel that there is an empty spot as I do \
?</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; \
margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; \
-qt-user-state:0;">Im sure we all agrea with you... in a way those 3 groups have \
allways worked toguether.</p> <p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> <p style=" margin-top:0px; \
margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; \
text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">The only problem right now is that I'm sufering \
from complete absence of freetime, part of it coused by the fact that I have a plan \
in motion to bring more guys like me into the project.... </p> <p \
style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; \
margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p> \
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- </p> <p style=" \
margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; \
-qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">oxygen guy, "I make the \
pretty pictures"</p></body></html>
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