From kde-panel-devel  Thu Oct 27 11:01:55 2011
From: "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:01:55 +0000
To: kde-panel-devel
Subject: Re: Thoughts about statusbar
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On Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:26:47 Alex Fiestas wrote:
> > a) superfluous to the user (kmail's composer window)
> > b) useful, but should be put elsewhere
> > c) moving it elsewhere wouldn't result in any visual or usage
> > improvements,
> > so is justified in usage
> 
> If we ban the statusbar usage for the general use allowing only exceptions
> like rekonq, then moving things elsewhere will be an improvement since it
> will help the global experience.

agreed ...

> So I will turn C into a "Only allowing exceptions".

sounds good ..

> Based on some past experience, I do not recommend asking for feedback in
> k-c- d, 

i do it on a semi-regular basis and tend to have good results. certainly not 
100%, but much better than others seem to have. probably because these days i 
try and go only with fully formulated proposals along with a statement of 
intended action. iow, i don't ask, i share what our plans are. seems to work 
fairly well.

> we should setup a single place to discuss all this "Overall
> experience" stuff for example I'm thinking in a kde-workspace mailist.

kde-workspace would be the wrong nomenclature as it already has a meaning 
(it's what we do in Plasma) and does not cover the applications or 
platform/frameworks. this is quite intentional and i'd personally appreciate 
it not being breached :)

we have tried in the past things like "kde-usability" and that doesn't work 
out well either as it attracts the wrong sorts (along with some of the right 
sorts) and they tend to burn people out while not enough people who just Do 
The Work(tm) show up.

i don't have a good answer for this, but whatever it is it has to sound boring 
and like it means doing actual work to keep away the peanut gallery while 
clear enough that it's about holistic design. personally, i'm not even 
convinced we need such a mailing list at all.

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