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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: (Mockup) Re: [RFC] Enforcing Compositing
From:       Martin =?iso-8859-15?q?Gr=E4=DFlin?= <mgraesslin () kde ! org>
Date:       2011-02-21 21:10:18
Message-ID: 201102212210.25818.mgraesslin () kde ! org
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On Monday 21 February 2011 20:51:40 you wrote:
> A Segunda, 21 de Fevereiro de 2011 18:55:25 Martin Gräßlin você escreveu:
> > On Monday 21 February 2011 12:55:48 Markus Slopianka wrote:
> > > Am Montag 21 Februar 2011, 07:24:33 schrieb Martin Gräßlin:
> > > > I don't want to remove the workaround, I only do not longer want to
> > > > expose it in the UI. That's a big difference. And I really like
> > > > Markus' idea with the None compositing backend.
> > > 
> > > I took a few minutes of time to squeeze out a mockup:
> > > http://kamikazow.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/kwin-mockup.png
> > 
> > Only one comment: disabling all effects does not make sense ;-)
> > 
> > > To my own surprise it reduces clutter to a greater degree than I
> > > thought it would while also not losing any features.
> > > 
> > > As a side note: In the "All effects" tab the categories are sorted
> > > alphabetically. While in theory that sounds good, seeing "Tools" above
> > > "Window Management" makes no sense. "Tools" is probably no used by
> > > anyone besides a handful of people who develop KWin and benchmarking
> > > geeks.
> > 
> > The all effects tab is IMHO completely useless. With more than 40 effects
> > with hardly any grouping. We need a different solution here
> 
> what we need is sane bewtiful and probably exculsive (exclusiv as made by
> us) defoults and efects.... the type of person brave enough to look at a
> efects list dosent mind a miriad of options.... we should remember allyas
> that most people don't chage defoults.... As a global experience impact we
> can achive much better results by providing a more unified experience as
> defoults go, than by trying to create better configure U's :)
> 
> #note im not sayin we should not improve the UI but... i would be muuch
> happier to have a coherent set of efects that are part of the experience,
> and not random bits of eye candy.
it's orthogonal. We need both. We need a better set of default effects and a 
better UI.
> 
> > > I'd also merge a few effect entries that are mutually exclusive: There
> > > are at least two Minimize effects which could be merged into one entry
> > > with "Normal" or "Genie" as radio buttons in the effect's config
> > > window. Same for closing windows, magnification lens, etc.
> > 
> > Agreed, this is something the current selection does not allow. If you
> > want to work on a concept for a new solution that would be highly
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Martin
> 
> oxygen guy, "I make the pretty pictures"

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