On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: > On March 26, 2010, Christophe Olinger wrote: >> This is not 100 % true. At the moment Shantanu and me try to have it >> also scale down to netbook size screens. This will be a bigger user >> base in the future than big tv screens IMHO. Also that is my > > i should have been more specific. by "large screens" i meant things larger > than the n900 or the Jax10's we had at tokamak 4. > > i think a primary use case for PMC will be laptops, with T.V.s being a > secodary one. > > as Zack points out, more important than screen size, however, is the input > device. on pocketable devices, that is your finger (or, at worst, a stylus). > on laptops, that's a keyboard and mouse. on a T.V. it's a hand-held remote > control. > > i don't think we can sanely target both pocketable devices and laptops/T.V.s > due to this. i do think we can target both laptops and T.V.s, however. the > reason for this is that while the T.V. is limited by a remote control input, > on the laptop use case when one fires up a full screen mediacenter (which is > what PMC should be) you want to go into a simplified user experience that is > centered around media viewing. > > if you want something richer, that doesn't take over the whole display and > with more point-and-click finesse, that's what apps like kaffeine and amarok > are for. > > this means that PMC only needs to address the same audiences that plasma- > desktop or plasma-netbook would, and should be aiming for a UI that is clear > enough that even a remote control is good enough. > > to go down this path a little bit more, even, here are some typical use cases > i have in mind for PMC based on observation of today's typical computer user: > > * Joe is on a train / airplane travelling between two cities. The trip is long > enough to watch the latest episode of his favourite T.V. show which he > downloaded the night before from his PVR at home. Joe pops open his laptop, > clicks on the Desktop Toolbox and selects "Media Center". PMC loads and he > selects "Video", which presents a list of videos on his internal hard drive. > > * Jane is at home and wants to show her dinner guests pictures from the recent > weekend trip she went on. Jane plugs her laptop into the living room > television, opens the application launcher (Kickoff, Lancelot) and selects > "Media Center". PMC starts up and she selects "Photos" which shows various > sets of photo albums. After going through the "Weekend Ski Trip" photos, she > goes back and selects Videos -> Youtube and loads a Youtube playlist of top 40 > music videos to play in the background while they visit. > > * Jaqueline sits down on the couch with her husband Jack and they turn on the > television and their Plasma Media Center set top box. They grab the remote > control and check the videos that they had recorded / downloaded but haven't > watched yet. They select an episode of House and another of Fawlty Towers and > press "Play". > > now, these are the use cases i have in my mind. they may be different from > those working on PMC have. hopefully not, but it's certainly possible. :) we > should therefore get to documenting what's being done here. i've gone ahead > and started a page here: > >        http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Plasma_Media_Center > > feel free to change any and all content and add, add, add more to it. Good idea, I'll be at it. > > the use cases above do provide some interesting insights, though: it would be > sensible to have a Digikam photo provider for PMC so that one can create their > photo albums in Digikam and then later view those same albums in PMC. it would > be sensible to have some notion of what's been watched and be able to set up > simple "playlists" by selecting mutiple items from a list of available media. > it doesn't matter if PMC works on the N900 well. > > thoughts? > > -- > Aaron J. Seigo > humru othro a kohnu se > GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA  EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 > > KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks > _______________________________________________ > Plasma-devel mailing list > Plasma-devel@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel > -- Shantanu Tushar (UTC +0530) http://www.shantanutushar.com _______________________________________________ Plasma-devel mailing list Plasma-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/plasma-devel