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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: Idea: Window management for 4.5
From:       J Janz <jj () juniorjanz ! net>
Date:       2010-01-29 20:06:48
Message-ID: eebd8d1b1001291206w5a7cfa21sa0b01ed28c10e0f9 () mail ! gmail ! com
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 2010/1/29 Jonathan Schmidt-Domin=E9 - Developer <devel@the-user.org>

>  Hi Plasma-Devs!
>
>
Well, I'm not one but ... still, I guess I bring some issues that, thought
deeper, could either help turning this ideas into something or sinking 'em
down. ;)

 Comments? Suggestions? Ideas?
>

I like the idea of getting rid of systray icons (or taskbar entries),
whenever systray icons also manage windows (amarok, kopete, ...). However,
having one behaviour to icon and another for text would possibly confuse
users, even because it's not very discoverable.

I myself have been thinking about taskbar items bringing systray icons's
menu but in the same context-menu. But don't know if it'd be too cluttered
sometimes.

On notifications above their own taskbar items (I also spent a little time
with this idea before -- but not that much to solve this issue, really) the
problem I see is when amarok and firefox (in the example) notify something:
where do the notifications go? Either they'd cover each other or get beside
each other (getting far from their taskbar entries -- and what if
konversation notifies something, too?!) or even be on top of each other (bu=
t
aligned with their taskbar entries), which would just look weird.

Do you see reasonable solutions for these issues?
--
J (|=B4:=AC{)=BB
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"Eu sou a ressurrei=E7=E3o e a vida. Quem cr=EA em mim, ainda que morra, vi=
ver=E1; e
todo o que vive e cr=EA em mim n=E3o morrer=E1, eternamente. Cr=EAs isto?"
O Senhor, Jesus Cristo - Jo.11:25-26
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<div class="gmail_quote">2010/1/29 Jonathan Schmidt-Dominé - Developer <span \
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<div style="font-family: &#39;Sans Serif&#39;; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: 400; \
font-style: normal;"> <p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">Hi Plasma-Devs!</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;"></p></div></blockquote><div> \
</div><div>Well, I&#39;m not one but ... still, I guess I bring some issues that, \
thought deeper, could either help turning this ideas into something or sinking \
&#39;em down. ;)<br>

<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div \
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<p style="margin: 0px; text-indent: 0px;">Comments? Suggestions? \
Ideas?</p></div></blockquote><div><br>I like the idea of getting rid of systray icons \
(or taskbar entries),  whenever systray icons also manage windows (amarok, kopete, \
...).  However, having one behaviour to icon and another for text would 
possibly confuse users, even because it&#39;s not very discoverable.<br>
<br>I myself have been thinking about taskbar items bringing systray icons&#39;s menu \
but in the same context-menu. But don&#39;t know if it&#39;d be too cluttered \
sometimes.<br> <br>On notifications above their own taskbar items (I also spent a \
little time with this idea before -- but not that much to solve this issue, really) \
the problem I see is when amarok and firefox (in the example) notify something: where \
do the notifications go? Either they&#39;d cover each other or get beside each other \
(getting far from their taskbar entries -- and what if konversation notifies \
something, too?!) or even be on top of each other (but aligned with their taskbar \
entries), which would just look weird.<br>

<br>Do you see reasonable solutions for these issues?<br clear="all">
--<br>
J (|´:¬{)»<br>
---------------------------------------------<br>
&quot;Eu
 sou a ressurreição e a vida. Quem crê em mim, ainda que morra, viverá; e
 todo o que vive e crê em mim não morrerá, eternamente. Crês isto?&quot;<br>
O
 Senhor, Jesus Cristo - Jo.11:25-26<br>
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