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Subject: Re: Ayatana notifications for Plasma
From: Aurélien_Gâteau <aurelien.gateau () canonical ! com>
Date: 2009-09-23 16:21:32
Message-ID: 4ABA4B0C.102 () canonical ! com
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Martin Gräßlin wrote:
>> An important point: While the patch is integrated in Kubuntu, the
>> default behavior is to use KDE notifications. The user can switch to
>> Ayatana notifications through an option of the system tray configuration
>> dialog (there are even preview buttons to help the user decide).
>>
>> http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/plasma-ayatana-notifications/configura
>> tion.png
> Sorry have you ever considered how that looks to the user? Which user does
> know about Ayatana? That is a technical term which should not be presented in
> a UI.
I was thinking just like you. My initial patch was labeled "Lighter
notifications", but Celeste and ScottK (of Kubuntu fame) suggested to
put the Ayatana word here to start building a brand on it.
> Why should a user switch to something else than the KDE notifications?
> The dialog is completely missing any information on what the notifications
> provide, what's the difference between the two and in the end it will come down
> to the one provides different possible positions while the other doesn't
It seems you missed the "Preview" buttons in the dialog.
> (btw
> the last time I tested Karmic the edges monitor didn't get disabled when
> switching to KDE notifications).
Good point. Will fix.
> If you wanted to give an easy way to test this
> system while not destroying user experience you should have made this a hidden
> config file option.
I would not call this an "easy way to test"
> And I am realy afraid that there will be the time when Kubuntu switches from
> KDE notifications to those Ayatana notifications. I realy hope that will never
> happen.
My knowledge of the Kubuntu community makes me quite confident this
won't happen.
> There might be good things about it and it would be great to bring
> them into the normal KDE notifications but all together I don't want the
> system.
That's all I want you to find. Experiment with it and extract anything
which makes sense from it.
> I have spoken to many Ubuntu users and nobody has said a good word
> about notifiy-osd, the most common saying was "broken by design".
As I said, the changes received varied feedback. I met Ubuntu users who
really loved notify-osd, and others who don't.
Aurélien
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