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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: Systray Notifications
From:       Rob Scheepmaker <r.scheepmaker () student ! utwente ! nl>
Date:       2008-11-30 22:31:13
Message-ID: 200811302331.13450.r.scheepmaker () student ! utwente ! nl
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On Sunday 30 November 2008 18:24:56 Matthias Fuchs wrote:
> On Samstag 29 November 2008 15:15:58 Rob Scheepmaker wrote:
> > Well, with more notifications then space available stuff will obviously
> > be suboptimal. The question is how often this situation arises. I'm using
> > these notifications in the systray for some time now, and the amount of
> > simultaneous messages has never been very big. Of course with telephone
> > like systems, that situation could occur, and if it does, you can use
> > that icon to hide your notifications so they aren't in your way.
>
> Well once I got many Kopete messages and the notifications started
> "flashing" (readjusting?).
>
> My systray is on a toolbar that is hided automatically and I
> could not press that button that moment. I logged on to kopete and got many
> messages, yet I could not hide them, they "overlayed" the bar.
> Yes pressing the icon of the notificaiton and then clicking into the chat-
> window solved that problem, but it's not nice neither.
>
> Anyway my point is even if you can hide that imagine -- especially in the
> future with the option to keep the "dialog" open -- that you are copying
> many things around and then hide all the notifications away. After a while
> you want to see if everything has been finished yet there are too many
> notifications ...
>
>
> Imo there should be a scrollbar. So all notifications are in one
> extender/plasmoid themselves.
> I made a primitive mockup: [1], [2]
> [1] all notifications are shown, in [2] more notifications were added and
> only the last are shown. If you want to see the other active notifications
> simply scroll up.
> That way you don't lose information yet your screen is not filled with
> notifications.
>
> In the future something like this could be configureable, so that you'd set
> the space that notifications are allowed to take.
>
> [1] http://imagebin.org/32482
> [2] http://imagebin.org/32483

Ok, to be clear: I do agree that a scrollbar there is neat, but it's just that 
I already got quite some things on my todo for 4.2 and I don't think this one 
is the most critical. I mean: the oldschool passivepopup notifications don't 
provide such a feature either, so this isn't a regression in that regard. And 
if you gather enough notifications at once for this to really be a problem, 
some app is spamming way to much notifications. I will work on making at least 
jobs only appear after they've been running 1 or 2 seconds to get rid of some 
of the unnecessary job spam.
How come that kopete suddenly decided to spam your screen full of 
notifications? That sounds more like the real problem here...
Of course, feel free to step up and implement. :)

Regards,
Rob

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